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kpete

(72,038 posts)
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 11:25 AM Feb 2014

YEP HE'S TOAST: Christie Email Reveals Christie "Team Way, Way Further Gone Than I Had Realized"

Last edited Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

As I wrote below, before Wildstein's accusations, before this afternoon's email, I thought Christie was toast. I think's clear for the reasons I wrote, even if Christie is totally innocent and even if no smoking gun emerges. But I hadn't sat long enough with the Christie letter to fully digest its implications. This email is purportedly if not from Christie himself then issued in his name and from his closest advisors. On that basis it reads like it's coming from a person or a team who is way, way further gone than I had realized.

One person said we should see the release of this email as a message to funders. If so, the message seems to be "I'm desperate and losing my mind."

This email/memo/press release doesn't read like a methodological takedown. It reads more like something dashed off in a climate of frenzied but impotent rage.




Much More Here:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/worse-than-i-realized
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/yep-hes-toast



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UPDATED TO ADD:

Long time New Jersey political reporter, who’s working with Steve Kornacki and used to work for Wildstein, at TPM:

I am trying to summon the requisite mood to seriously ponder the implications of the email that Governor Christie apparently sent to supporters/donors/ Politico/Beltway Republicans (as if there’s any… never mind). But I can’t. I just can’t.

It is hard for me to believe that the governor of an American state could author such a piece of risible juvenilia, except it is even harder for me to believe a paid communications professional could have been behind this. The “argument” Christie (or possibly one very very close longtime advisor) is making here is that David Wildstein is a bad guy


MORE:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/well-that-escalated-quickly
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YEP HE'S TOAST: Christie Email Reveals Christie "Team Way, Way Further Gone Than I Had Realized" (Original Post) kpete Feb 2014 OP
This is the face of person who doesn't know how to stop... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #1
Loser. Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #7
Well... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #17
I would hate to be his tailor. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #29
So, here's a verse... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #31
The Keeper: The Legend of Omar Khayyam. My favorite movie. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #32
k&r... spanone Feb 2014 #2
He has such a horrible background, but Christie CAG Feb 2014 #3
At the time, Christie probably thought these were plusses. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2014 #13
TOAST?...Did someone say "TOAST'? Segami Feb 2014 #4
Looks like an outline for a Republican career path randr Feb 2014 #5
Christie is scared Gothmog Feb 2014 #6
Wrong move by the CC adm. in sending this type of e-mail. Iliyah Feb 2014 #8
I think it speaks to Christie's character Skittles Feb 2014 #33
sounds like a sociopath fascisthunter Feb 2014 #9
Christie just proved he IS dumb enough to have ordered the lanes closed. nt SunSeeker Feb 2014 #10
DUZY! Demeter Feb 2014 #11
As I just asked in another thread on this: cleduc Feb 2014 #12
exactly cleduc kpete Feb 2014 #14
Between this letter and the one Wildstein's lawyer wrote rocktivity Feb 2014 #15
Huge Backfire... Blue Idaho Feb 2014 #16
Sociopaths almost always comes out smelling like a rose.. 2banon Feb 2014 #18
Sadly I Have To Agree With You... ChiciB1 Feb 2014 #25
Soooo much in agreement with you. I read and hear Beiber's name all the time, I know he's a celeb 2banon Feb 2014 #28
I'm calling ''Risible Juvenilia''..... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #19
The personal tone shows that Wildstein drew BLOOD elfin Feb 2014 #20
Last night I was 2naSalit Feb 2014 #21
Christie is history malaise Feb 2014 #22
Christie lost me at the GOP convention vlyons Feb 2014 #23
Christie's next press conference... Spazito Feb 2014 #24
I can't wait until he goes to jail shenmue Feb 2014 #26
I have proof that Politicalboi Feb 2014 #27
yummy ... I like toast! napkinz Feb 2014 #30

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
1. This is the face of person who doesn't know how to stop...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 11:28 AM
Feb 2014

Lookie here… "LOSER" is written all over this pile of flesh…

?itok=zk98Z99E

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
29. I would hate to be his tailor.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:12 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe Omar Khayyam's father was his tailor.
Why do I say this?
Because Omar Khayyam was known as "Omar, the tent-maker's son."


MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
31. So, here's a verse...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:37 PM
Feb 2014

"With them the Seed of Wisdom did I sow,
And with my own hand labour'd it to grow:
And this was all the Harvest that I reap'd --
"I came like Water and like Wind I go" …………….

Omar Khayyam, The Rubayyat

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
32. The Keeper: The Legend of Omar Khayyam. My favorite movie.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:43 PM
Feb 2014

Check it out at www.greatomar.com

Yes, that's Vanessa Redgrave in the big picture. Made by a Persian guy in Uzbekistan and Houston.

The guy who plays Omar (center top) is very handsome!!!

Gothmog

(145,800 posts)
6. Christie is scared
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 12:20 PM
Feb 2014

If the best that Christie can bring up is stuff from high school, then Christie is toast

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. Wrong move by the CC adm. in sending this type of e-mail.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 12:23 PM
Feb 2014

CC should have just denied it and let the lawyers handled it.

Skittles

(153,261 posts)
33. I think it speaks to Christie's character
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:14 AM
Feb 2014

the arrogant asshole simply cannot help himself.....imagine being his lawyer

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
12. As I just asked in another thread on this:
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:02 PM
Feb 2014

if there was that much obviously wrong with this guy going back to his high school days, why did Christie create a $220k/yr job for him at the Port Authority?

rocktivity

(44,583 posts)
15. Between this letter and the one Wildstein's lawyer wrote
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:05 PM
Feb 2014

I feel like I'm caught between "Mean Girls" and "Heathers."






rocktivity

Blue Idaho

(5,065 posts)
16. Huge Backfire...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:08 PM
Feb 2014

All this memo shows is that Chris CrispyCream is juvenile, vindictive, and unfit to lead. As each day goes by it looks increasingly like this loudmouth is exactly the kind of guy who would cripple traffic to spite a political enemy.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
18. Sociopaths almost always comes out smelling like a rose..
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:30 PM
Feb 2014

I'll wager a dozen roses, Christie will come out of this at the end of the day, with very little harm done. Maybe he won't be the repugs candidate for POTUS, but I seriously doubt anything worse will come of this scandal. Cuz that's the pattern I've seen for far too many decades. Once in a blue moon justice prevails. But that ain't gonna happen in this case.

Loved to be proven wrong.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
25. Sadly I Have To Agree With You...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:39 PM
Feb 2014

As a long time political activist/addict, I too have seen far too many prominent political people get taken down completely. Sure there have been some kinda/sorta brand name politicians who paid a small price, but for the most part... BLEH!

Saw an interesting quote on a program I watched about the cartoonist Herbert Block and his long time career through many administrations. One quote he made was this... The Problem With Corruption Is The Ignorance With Corruption! Also said something I've known for so very long. Keeping up with current events is hard work and too many people don't take the time to keep informed. NOW, more than ever, we've become a nation that simply accepts the fact that we can't change it. So much apathy about the really important things, but when the stupid stuff like Justin Beeber and all things of this nature, people become SUPER animated!

A sad reflection on what a once great country has become!
JMHO

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
28. Soooo much in agreement with you. I read and hear Beiber's name all the time, I know he's a celeb
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:47 PM
Feb 2014

but I have never ever seen him perform either as a musician (?) or an actor (?)

LOL!

Nor do I care to. Not ever. Not even in a clip. I refuse to "click" on any of that crap.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
19. I'm calling ''Risible Juvenilia''.....
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:41 PM
Feb 2014

...for my next band name!!!

- K&R



''Of course I totally believe the governor had nothing to do with this, and if he did it was probably because of demonic possession. Now ordinarily help people get rid of those boogers, buuuttt when Christie tanks its just me, Jeb and Sarah.......''

elfin

(6,262 posts)
20. The personal tone shows that Wildstein drew BLOOD
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:43 PM
Feb 2014

With his single remark about when Christie knew with no specificity of the type of "proof."

For CC to go ballistic and go back to his glory years at High School over this one unproven as yet remark is very revealing.

He is a wounded bull and his lawyers have their work cut out for them to keep him penned up and out of more serious trouble.

2naSalit

(86,900 posts)
21. Last night I was
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:49 PM
Feb 2014

kind of bored so I got online and watched Disrupt with Karen Finney and during one of her segments on this fiasco she had a loop of video from the Super Bowl event in NYC where CC was booed. It was very telling, even without the sound or booing part. I showed him sort of pacing on the stage, alone in the crowd. Cuomo walked right in from of him (back toward CC while waving to the crowd) when leaving the stage, whatshername the Ariz. gov. was waving and greeting many others while walking right up in front of CC and acted like she didn't notice him but suddenly greeted him and quickly moved on. He had this very dejected look about him, like a bully who was waiting for his sentence outside the principal's office. But there was also a tinge of him considering how to get revenge for the public humiliation he was suffering at the moment when nobody would be looking... must be his defense mechanism. He was obviously troubled to be humiliated in front of all those people and cameras and peers.

His house of cards is falling, he's political poison to all the rest of the republitards and they were letting him know it yesterday.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
23. Christie lost me at the GOP convention
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:54 PM
Feb 2014

where he was the keynote speaker. That angry, yelling, hate-driven, bullying speech was just an incredible turn-off. I want a leader, who creates and promotes peace.

Spazito

(50,565 posts)
24. Christie's next press conference...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:10 PM
Feb 2014

'I knew nothing about the email, not in it's planning or execution. I am embarrassed and humiliated. I have fired (fill in the name of the rogue employee) immediately after finding out about this from the media.'

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
27. I have proof that
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 02:46 PM
Feb 2014

Wildstein chewed gum in school too. And when he was done with it, he stuck it under his desk.

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