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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn being certifiably poor yet pro-corporate: Scratching my head and wanting to vent
A long distance friend of mine I see maybe once a year when certain hobbies/activities of common interest bring me to his neck of the woods. We speak on the phone a few times a year. I can't get over how partisan and conservative he is; especially his utterly parochial defense of corporatist policy and his ferocious anti-labor stance and absolute belief in "trickle-down" economics.
He is poor and knows it, makes not much over minimum wage ( 10 bucks & change an hour ) at some light industry place and though not destitute, lives somewhat shabbily though I guess comfortably in an area where living is cheaper. What gets me is this: It's not that he just goes along for the ride on the corporatist view; it's his #1 issue. I mean, he's somewhat religious but not at all a fundie ( in fact he makes fun of evangelicals ) and he's not a gun owner. Socially conservative but to him that's just a side issue. It's like he thinks being servile to one's employer is almost the moral thing to do. He even once said one day something happened that stopped production and they had nothing to do for several hours. He said he actually felt guilty and felt he was stealing from his employer: This from a place with forced overtime, no benefits. He takes management's side in every labor dispute that ever was. There is a large heavy equipment manufacturer in his town and he's always bashing the unions and employees there and actually said he wished it would close down! WTF!!??
Why such malevolence for his own class?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)someday soon ... he's gonna win the lottery, or invent the "next big, new thing", or will have saved up his "just above minimum wage earning and be able to buy the company, or hell ... he'll just be discovered for the genius he is and be thrust into the investor/owner class.
At which point ... he will be vindicated, as he fought to keep the status quo.
Notafraidtoo
(402 posts)We are taught this early in our childhood to be submissive and that work for any reason is the moral thing to due, its the same for religion, if a child learns something before the age of 9 it is very difficult to shake that kind of cultural upbringing.
I talk with these unknowing self haters regularly about how they should stand up for themselves and not let themselves be screwed so easily, it ends up going into tantrums about food stamps or black people. Some people just care more to hang on to hate more than they care about their paychecks and the financial well being of their family.
Its not new, this is why Democrats switched to the republican party after the civil rights act, that hate is just more important to them, it supersedes logic.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)But even if a worldview was taught young, I still can't wrap my mind around one's inability to ignore empirical evidence. I guess they can, since I now live down south and work with some people who are like what you describe.
florida08
(4,106 posts)When people are disillusioned with their life they tend to blame everyone. I know I have. He feels he has very little and even less chance of getting ahead. Pretty much stuck. That's why we need to raise the minimum wage to at least $15/hr. He only bashes unions because he doesn't belong to one. He half heartedly believes that if unions were getting less there would be more for him. We know that's not true. At least that's my take on it. He feels that those right above him don't care about him. I hired a man who had his own small business installing house gutters. He was republican and didn't mind telling me how he didn't like unions. Saying he wouldn't have a business if he had to pay union wages. I explained to him that I was paying him with union wages. He got quiet after that.
moondust
(20,024 posts)at the top of a corporation whose fortune he expects to inherit someday (provided the commies and IRS don't steal it first)?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)If he spends any significant commute time listening to right wing talk radio there's a good chance he got it there.
All talk radio ever did for me is piss me off and make me more liberal, I quit listening when I figured out it was designed to piss you off whether you agreed or disagreed with the host.
If you aren't really strong minded though the propaganda on the radio can be really insidious, they play on a lot of memes that are buried pretty deep in the American psyche.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)He's always quoting him. But that shouldn't overshadow empirical evidence of what's what, and I just can't get past why he'd be such a team player to the degree he is. I know well the dynamic you speak of; Hell, I used to listen to that jerk too, when I was a republican in my younger years. Even then I knew he was full of shit but he was entertaining. Both him and the GOP got positively toxic and I could stand both of them no more and I knew leaving all that behind was the right thing: There was no mental tug of war.