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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:47 PM Feb 2014

The Rude Pundit: West Virginians Don't Know How Fucked They Are Because No One Will Tell Them

Here's a fun fact from West Virginia, where, you might remember, 300,000 people had to go without water for a period of time because some dicksacks had a storage facility leaking chemicals into the Elk River, just a mile and a half above the intake for a water plant. In response, Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin (who, of course, is named "Earl Ray&quot proposed legislation "aimed at creating a new regulatory program for aboveground chemical storage tanks." So far, so groovy, no?

In a press conference two weeks ago, Tomblin announced it, which was a day after a meeting of various groups with the the governor's staff and members of the Department of Environmental Protection. "The stakeholders," as Tomblin's deputy chief of staff called those who met about, you know, the water everyone uses to drink, bathe, water plants, all that water-related stuff.

Who was in that meeting where the legislation was essentially created and finalized? Who were the stakeholders? Oh, you know: "The West Virginia Chamber of Commerce was invited. So were the Oil and Gas Association and the Coal Association. Trade associations representing grocers, manufacturers, trucking firms and energy companies were included," according to documents about the meeting that the Charleston Gazette obtained. Who wasn't invited? Any environmental groups. Any citizen groups. No, see, because they must not have a stake in the safety of the water.

Also in the documents are emails from various lobbyists and others in the business community suggesting changes to the legislation. For instance, "Rebecca Randolph, president of the West Virginia Manufacturers Association...provided a list of 18 different exemptions that would exclude various types of aboveground storage tanks from the governor's bill." Those exemptions did, in fact, make it into the bill.

That was the backdrop for a public hearing on the bill that was held yesterday in Charleston in the House of Delegates chamber, where the legislators indulged the citizens for a couple of hours. They got to hear 52 state citizens say things like "Please, no loopholes, no exclusions," which is the opposite of what the business person said, so, really, no, sorry.

See, the citizens who were there are afraid that their legislators are so in the pocket of the massive pollution-producing capitalist apparatus that runs the state that nothing good will actually come from their government. Said Nancy Ward, "You say this will never happen again. But unless you're willing to pass legislation that is effective and properly enforced, I guarantee it will happen again and again and again."

Why should they doubt the sincerity of the legislature? Perhaps because "about half of the members of the House of Delegates didn't attend -- or left early -- Monday night's hearing in the House chamber." (The bill has already passed the Senate.) Or perhaps because, at the same time, Senate committees are considering a bill that changes how the amount of toxic aluminum is measured in the state's water, a change that will result in more aluminum in the drinking water. (Among other things, high aluminum content is connected to higher rates of Alzheimer's and other shit you don't want.)

Or perhaps because the state hasn't exactly been square with the citizens about the shit that's already in the water. Like, well, formaldehyde. Said an official of the West Virginia Environmental Quality Board, "We know that (crude MCHM) turns into other things, and these other things are bad. And we haven't been looking for those other things. So we can't say the water is safe yet. We just absolutely cannot." He will not let his family drink the water from the faucet.

Yeah, all the flushing of pipes might not have worked. The pipes and the system itself might have been fucked beyond fucked.

If the Rude Pundit were in West Virginia, and it was snowy and rainy, as it has been and will be, he'd wonder just what the hell is in that precipitation and how it is planting the seeds for his future doom.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/02/west-virginians-dont-know-how-fucked.html

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The Rude Pundit: West Virginians Don't Know How Fucked They Are Because No One Will Tell Them (Original Post) meegbear Feb 2014 OP
Recommend jsr Feb 2014 #1
I really think that they are fucked beyond fucked. ananda Feb 2014 #2
As are we all, I fear. nt tblue37 Feb 2014 #3
Hi Cuz! Yes, it's scary as hell. tblue Feb 2014 #14
Kicked and recced. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #4
And they will vote for the Republican senate candidate in 2014... iandhr Feb 2014 #5
well, that's depressing.... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #11
No sorry not clear from the context. iandhr Feb 2014 #13
ohhhhh...I see. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #18
You never know. iandhr Feb 2014 #19
This is starting to really make me wonder if I should stay away from W.V. for a LONG while. AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #6
Clarksburg is a long way from Charleston theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #15
Highly recommended. It is amzing to me how resilliant the people of WVA are to have continually.... marble falls Feb 2014 #7
The media seems to be shocked to learn that the good citizens seem not to TRUST the government of Fred Sanders Feb 2014 #8
I knew who "the stakeholders" were going to be underpants Feb 2014 #9
knr alfredo Feb 2014 #10
Bashar Assad couldn't have fucked them better himself. nt TheMathieu Feb 2014 #12
And some folks wonder why WV voters are jaded theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #16
KICK! Cha Feb 2014 #17

tblue

(16,350 posts)
14. Hi Cuz! Yes, it's scary as hell.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:02 PM
Feb 2014

I live way far away from WV, but that crap could happen anywhere. Until we start enforcing strong regulations, and putting high-level culprits in prison, this and other dangers will occur.

Sometimes I honestly believe this country is just too dang big for its own good. We need to be agile and responsive and, even, proactive. Hard to do when you have the Kochs/ALEC, the Tea Party, Repubs, and Blue Dogs hung around our neck. They're just so much dead weight and they're truly holding this country back!

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
5. And they will vote for the Republican senate candidate in 2014...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:03 PM
Feb 2014

… because Obama is evil and "big government and freedom"

I was in Charleston for a Young Democrats of America conference.

They think Obama is the cause of a lot of their problems.

It's too bad. The Democratic Senate candidate is an amazing woman. I was very impressed by her.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
11. well, that's depressing....
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014
Young Democrats of America conference.

They think Obama is the cause of a lot of their problems.



iandhr

(6,852 posts)
13. No sorry not clear from the context.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:54 PM
Feb 2014

West Virginians do. The whole war on coal thing.

YDA loves the President. The WV continent was expelling to me why Obama is so unpopular there.

The conference was in Charleston as a way of Thanking the president of YDA for his service.

He is from WV and is a big fan of the President.

He however is optimistic about the future of WV Dems.

Figure he knows more than I do. The 2014 Senate race will be telling.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
19. You never know.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 09:15 PM
Feb 2014

A tea partier can win the WV Senate primary say something about rape and we can hold the seat.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
6. This is starting to really make me wonder if I should stay away from W.V. for a LONG while.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:08 PM
Feb 2014

My family and I were planning on going up there sometime in March, to Clarksburg, but given that the problem seems to be lingering, and may actually get worse, I'm not so sure if we'd even be safe staying there. We might have to either stay in a hotel out of state or cancel the trip altogether.....as much as I'd like to see my family out East again, it wouldn't be worth possibly getting poisoned for, you know what I'm saying?

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
15. Clarksburg is a long way from Charleston
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:31 PM
Feb 2014

If it's the spill you're worried about. And the water from the spill travels from the Kanawha to the Ohio River.

marble falls

(57,494 posts)
7. Highly recommended. It is amzing to me how resilliant the people of WVA are to have continually....
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:11 PM
Feb 2014

been cheated, murdered, jailed, beaten, poisoned, made homeless by corporations that headquartered in other states. Its almost ironic how popular a governor name Rockefeller could be and a Democrat to boot. Bless the common folks of WVA. Screw the "carpetbaggers".

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. The media seems to be shocked to learn that the good citizens seem not to TRUST the government of
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:19 PM
Feb 2014

West Virginia or the companies either involved or supporting the industries involved, and when the citizens are snubbed as being unworthy of having a stake in their own property, their own water and health and are excluded as stakeholders in the preparing of legislation, except for 2 rushed hours.......revolutions have started over less than this....and a few times just over water.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
16. And some folks wonder why WV voters are jaded
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:33 PM
Feb 2014

Our Democrats are practically indistinguishable from the Repugs. And this state is run top to bottom by Democrats.

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