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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts) Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:35 PM Feb 2014

Marcus Smart, the OK State player who hit a fan, has been suspended for 3 games.

The fan will not be attending any more Texas Tech basketball games this year either home or away. He did this voluntarily. His name is John Orr.

Texas Rech talked to the fans near Mr.Orr. They said he didn't use a racial slur but that he did say something nasty. Mr.Orr agreed that he did.
http://bit.ly/1f7MH53

Lubbock and Texas Tech have a reputation among other teams. It is known to be rough place to play and the fact that vile things are said is not news.

Texas Tech and the conference should have stopped this a long time ago. Being a noisy place to play with supportive fans is a different animal than a bad place to play because of abuse. They might not be able to catch everybody but they could have put a foot down and stopped this to a large extent.

Mr.Orr has a history of being nasty to players. Personally I think he should be banned.

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Marcus Smart, the OK State player who hit a fan, has been suspended for 3 games. (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 OP

Both were out of line 1000words Feb 2014 #1

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm malaise Feb 2014 #2

Surrounding fans say no ... but he admits saying something nasty. 1000words Feb 2014 #3

"piece of crap" alp227 Feb 2014 #5

That's what I'm hearing 1000words Feb 2014 #6

That isn't clear at all kcr Feb 2014 #16

Orr says he didn't not that he is a reliable person. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #4

More importantly the fans around him say he didn't dsc Feb 2014 #7

Orr has stated he won't attend anymore games this year. 1000words Feb 2014 #9

He should not be banned kcr Feb 2014 #8

I said Orr should be banned not Marcus Smart. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #10

Oops, sorry, I was confused about who was who. kcr Feb 2014 #15

One major lie in his statement. His behavior represents Texas Tech perfectly. RB TexLa Feb 2014 #11

Every program has rabid, vicious fans 1000words Feb 2014 #13

The fan got what he deserved. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #12

My response to your BS. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #14

1000words

(7,051 posts)

1. Both were out of line

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:38 PM

Feb 2014

This is a great opportunity to address the vicious behavior that gets passed off as "home court/field advantage," but I'm not hopeful.

malaise

(269,278 posts)

2. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:44 PM

Feb 2014

Didn't the fan called him the N word

1000words

(7,051 posts)

3. Surrounding fans say no ... but he admits saying something nasty.

Reply to malaise (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:49 PM

Feb 2014

I'm not so sure.

alp227

(32,075 posts)

5. "piece of crap"

Reply to 1000words (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:51 PM

Feb 2014

Video taken courtside:

Statement by Texas Tech and Orr: http://www.texastech.com/genrel/020914aab.html

1000words

(7,051 posts)

6. That's what I'm hearing

Reply to alp227 (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:52 PM

Feb 2014

Thanks for posting that.

kcr

(15,326 posts)

16. That isn't clear at all

Reply to alp227 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 10, 2014, 12:46 AM

Feb 2014

Anyone who claims they can tell what was said is full of it.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)

4. Orr says he didn't not that he is a reliable person.

Reply to malaise (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:50 PM

Feb 2014

Here is my take on responding to fans:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1002

Orr should be banned because he has a history of being nasty.
Players are suspended for 3 games for this.

dsc

(52,172 posts)

7. More importantly the fans around him say he didn't

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:57 PM

Feb 2014

and the tape says he didn't.

1000words

(7,051 posts)

9. Orr has stated he won't attend anymore games this year.

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 08:01 PM

Feb 2014

kcr

(15,326 posts)

8. He should not be banned

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:58 PM

Feb 2014

If they aren't going to crack down hard enough on fans shouting racial slurs, then they'd better not ban the players for reacting to it. I think a suspension for 3 games is enough.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)

10. I said Orr should be banned not Marcus Smart.

Reply to kcr (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 08:01 PM

Feb 2014

3 games is ok for Smart.

kcr

(15,326 posts)

15. Oops, sorry, I was confused about who was who.

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 10, 2014, 12:40 AM

Feb 2014

I agree.

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)

11. One major lie in his statement. His behavior represents Texas Tech perfectly.

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 08:02 PM

Feb 2014

1000words

(7,051 posts)

13. Every program has rabid, vicious fans

Reply to RB TexLa (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 08:07 PM

Feb 2014

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Sports crowds can get dangerously close to mob mentality. Some ugly things have happened, as a result.

TheMathieu

(456 posts)

12. The fan got what he deserved.

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 08:07 PM

Feb 2014

Frankly, we need to stop coddling verbal abusers from those pushed to the limits by their vitriol.

It's a sad mistake to allow people to roam around thinking that they should have a right to say or scream anything at anyone or in any venue without repercussions, but then to turn around and punish those who sock them.

Don't arrest them. Just don't give them protection from their victims.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)

14. My response to your BS.

Reply to TheMathieu (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 08:15 PM

Feb 2014

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024471305

He will hear shite in the NBA that is just as nasty. Every fan can't be caught. Either be a player or quit and be a security monitor.
The teams and venues have to crack down on the fans.

If YOU want to be on a team and respond to fans, join a rec league. They are horrible. Then see how effective you are as a player or at stopping fan abuse.

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