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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShaking my head at a Facebook discussion I've had with a friend.
Just as a background, for what it's worth, my friend's a nice enough guy. We have fun talking sports. He was in my scout troop back in the day. He went to my church, his sister was good friends with my sister growing up, etc. So I like the guy, personally.
But he definitely leans right. Not obnoxiously so, but still it's clear which side he breads his butter on.
So anyways, today he starts talking about the ACA and healthcare, and basically why he believes the President's health care reform was a bad thing.
When I pressed him for details as to why he believes it was bad, he told me he doesn't want his money going to pay for other people's healthcare. I pointed out that under the pre-ACA system, that is exactly what was happening. People were choosing to remain uninsured, and then after they got hurt or sick, they'd go to the emergency room, and after they didn't pay the bill, costs went up and those who were insured saw their premiums rise.
He agreed that was a problem, but he said instead of the ACA, they should have just made it where everyone should have to buy at least a minimum level of insurance, and if they refuse to pay, there should be some sort of penalty.
I told him that he's just described the ACA's mandate to a tee.
He then sidestepped that glaring fact, insisting that he wasn't describing the ACA mandate because he opposed subsidies. He claimed that he shouldn't be forced to pay for other people's services, that other people should have to pay for services themselves and not be "given" it.
Then he said he had to go to work.
But here's the irony. Guess what he does for a living?
Answer: He's a school teacher. A public school teacher.
The cognitive dissonance is maddening at times. Especially when you have otherwise good people agreeing with crazy things that contradict everything else they happen to believe in.
tridim
(45,358 posts)They have so much in common, they would likely become fast friends.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)You spin me right 'round, baby
Right 'round like a record, baby
Right 'round, 'round, 'round
You spin me right 'round, baby
Right 'round like a record, baby
Right 'round, 'round, 'round
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whack be whack no matter how nice or known I say
I know the song, but don't know what you're angling at.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)or did not have the $$ for health care than were uninsured because they *chose* not to have insurance.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Insurance is paying for other people's services.
When you buy fire insurance, and your house doesn't burn down, you are paying the other people who did have their house burn down.
Likewise, paying for health insurance when you're healthy means you are paying for the other people who are sick. I'll never use the OB/GYN services in my health insurance - I'm male. Yet I'm paying for them. A woman on the same plan will never receive treatment for testicular cancer. But she's paying for it. And so on, and so on.
FSogol
(45,579 posts)Less people insured (or even worse, only the sickest insured) the higher the cost.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)As in "me me". I work with people just like that; They think they're the only ones that work hard and/or deserve a break. The hell with everybody else....unless they know them personally or closely.