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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:19 PM Feb 2014

10 things not to buy in 2014: Number 1........ Cable tv.

Cable television’s heyday is over. Subscribers have been declining since 2004, and analysts say there’s no end in sight. Roughly 54.8 million households currently pay for cable TV, down 3.3% from 2012 and down 17.6% from a decade prior, according to research firm IHS. Cable companies are expected to shed roughly 1.3 million subscribers in 2014.

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10 things not to buy in 2014: Number 1........ Cable tv. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 OP
Good to know BitSin Feb 2014 #1
But the same companies control wifi. aquart Feb 2014 #2
I read a few days ago that some neighborhoods were setting up their own wi-fi dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #3
Interesting. aquart Feb 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author trublu992 Feb 2014 #26
Yep CatholicEdHead Feb 2014 #8
Does the cable company increase prices as often dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #37
Continually raising prices in a stagnant wage economy is a recipe for failure DJ13 Feb 2014 #4
+1 n/t Alkene Feb 2014 #27
I know I am dropping my satellite dish. Just justhanginon Feb 2014 #5
I have had my DirecTV satellite dish for 8 years. SamKnause Feb 2014 #28
I think he means he would have to adust his attenna for getting over the air programming dsc Feb 2014 #32
I dropped cable tv bermudat Feb 2014 #6
I remember when we switched from dish to cable postatomic Feb 2014 #7
4. DVD and Blu-ray players cui bono Feb 2014 #9
the other real cool thing about no tv dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #10
Yes, but you're actually talking hardware there. Flat screen vs CRT/tube TVs. cui bono Feb 2014 #12
I agree about cable. And satellite. Any TV programming is banned Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #11
TV is actually where the best stuff is now though, as far as story and quality. cui bono Feb 2014 #13
I don't mind waiting for it on Netflix or other manner so I can avoid commercials Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #14
Yeah, that's still TV though. cui bono Feb 2014 #23
Hear, hear!! Admitting you love TV is nearly as pnwest Feb 2014 #15
Well TV used to not be very good and movies used to be great. Now it's pretty much the opposite. cui bono Feb 2014 #25
The computer recommendation isn't for everyone. WillowTree Feb 2014 #16
Lol......we have 4 desktops dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #36
More and more Seniors I know are dropping cable and some nearby have antennae Tikki Feb 2014 #17
Dunno if it is a factor no not, but dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #18
Yes, and too darned expensive. Tikki Feb 2014 #19
Agreed. Delphinus Feb 2014 #33
The tablet computer fad is annoying (RE: #7). Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #20
I paid $10 for the pad postatomic Feb 2014 #42
If I could pay just $100 extra to get a business class seat Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #22
those are all things i don't need fizzgig Feb 2014 #24
In my situation, SamKnause Feb 2014 #29
This article is really written from a position of privilege. MadrasT Feb 2014 #30
If you are a male, Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #31
Tv is a terrible product jollyreaper2112 Feb 2014 #34
I have noticed that Netflix has fewer dvd offerings dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #39
I kicked the cable habit over 10 years ago. I've saved 12000 dollars Herself Feb 2014 #35
Good article. I am a big fan of vrbo and airbnb cbayer Feb 2014 #38
Getting rid of cable isn't much of an option if you're into sports or you like a nice clear picture. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #40
Which is why they were allowed to steal broadband access in the U.S. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #41

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. I read a few days ago that some neighborhoods were setting up their own wi-fi
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:35 PM
Feb 2014

Everyone chipped in to buy the server and etc.
Don't know enough to follow the how-to details, but it did give me pause.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
21. Interesting.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:51 AM
Feb 2014

When my sister shivered that the monster telecoms were setting themselves up to control all information flow....I said, "No. They are setting themselves up to be replaced." But I didn't know how that could be done. I just knew that someone would find a way.

Thomas Edison got annoyed with his gas company. Voila! Electric light. Never underestimate the creative power of the ticked off.

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #3)

CatholicEdHead

(9,740 posts)
8. Yep
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:51 PM
Feb 2014

I do not pay for cable tv but I pay for cable internet. Cable TV is nothing but endless reality show crap. I know they can cut off or control my internet connection anytime, the weak spot is between my router and the open internet, those few crucial hops.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
37. Does the cable company increase prices as often
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:53 PM
Feb 2014

for internet???
It would be most interesting if they did not.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
5. I know I am dropping my satellite dish. Just
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:24 PM
Feb 2014

waiting for the weather to get better so my son can readjust my outside antenna. I'm just getting too darn old to be climbing on the roof, discretion still being the better part of valor. The programming just gets worse and worse especially for the price and between the intertubes and my local PBS I don't think I will miss much. I'll just have to bid a fond farewell to Georgio Tsoukalakalokass.

SamKnause

(13,114 posts)
28. I have had my DirecTV satellite dish for 8 years.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 06:50 AM
Feb 2014

It is on my roof.

It has not required an adjustment one single time.

I don't understand why you would have to adjust yours.


P.S. I had a Dish satellite for 8 years before that, also on the roof.

It never required any adjustments either.

I agree some of the programming is awful.

bermudat

(1,329 posts)
6. I dropped cable tv
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:31 PM
Feb 2014

I just have reg channels (had no idea how abysmal most the shows are on ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox).
Luv Netflix. Unfortunately as more folks drop cable tv, cable companies just will hike up internet service
charges.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
7. I remember when we switched from dish to cable
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:45 PM
Feb 2014

The woman said; "you can't get true HD with a coax cable". I replied; "isn't your feed from the dish sent by a coax cable?". Silence.

I like cable. I can browse the channels on my android pad, record, download movies, all kinds of cool stuff.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
9. 4. DVD and Blu-ray players
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:08 AM
Feb 2014

I disagree with this one. I like to know I can watch what I what when I want. There's a lot of movies that aren't available to stream. So even if you don't buy the disc you have to rent it. It's important to me to be able to see a movie when I need to see it for entertainment purposes as well as professional research purposes.

I did ditch cable TV though. I love that. Now I only watch things intentionally, not what I just happen upon. I also have HD antennas so sometimes I will just see what's on, but there's a lot less to choose from and get distracted by.

Streaming binge watching is where it's at.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. the other real cool thing about no tv
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:20 AM
Feb 2014

is I can watch movies and stuff on this marvelous flat screen monitor, with its crispy clear pictures.
Much better than the old tvs we had.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
12. Yes, but you're actually talking hardware there. Flat screen vs CRT/tube TVs.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:00 AM
Feb 2014

Cable is just the subscription service regardless of what kind of TV you have.

It's funny how before flat screens 32" was a huge TV and now that's on the small side.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
11. I agree about cable. And satellite. Any TV programming is banned
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:37 AM
Feb 2014

In my house. We enjoy watching movies, will watch short pieces on YouTube and other video services...but I cannot stand TV these days. Any good I've gained has more than offset by the cost.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
13. TV is actually where the best stuff is now though, as far as story and quality.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:03 AM
Feb 2014

Not talking about reality TV of course. But compared to the movies being put out, TV is where you get complex and original stories now. Breaking Bad, Mad Men, The Newsroom, Game of Thrones, Downton Abbey... Nothing wrong with TV today at all, just gotta watch the good shows.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
14. I don't mind waiting for it on Netflix or other manner so I can avoid commercials
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:25 AM
Feb 2014

And the many adjacent channels full of garbage.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
15. Hear, hear!! Admitting you love TV is nearly as
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:27 AM
Feb 2014

socially unacceptable as wearing fur anymore. So I have to back you up. I admit I despair at the lack of anything good to watch more often than not...but I want my Letterman tonight, not tomorrow - same goes for all my fave shows. I avoid the honey booboos, duck dynasties, and housewives from anywhere - and still manage to fill a couple hours a day with interesting programming.

And I'm a sucker for sitcoms! There! I said it!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
25. Well TV used to not be very good and movies used to be great. Now it's pretty much the opposite.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:23 AM
Feb 2014

I think it was the Netflix CEO that Chris Hayes interviewed and I think he was right when he said the talent is doing a lot of TV now because that's where the risk takers are. The movies are for the most part boring - either action flicks or kids' movies. If you want good adult drama it's on TV. (That includes Netflix and the like original programming now.)

As for sitcoms... Modern Family is fantastic! 30 Rock was great, Arrested Development... all smart and funny.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
16. The computer recommendation isn't for everyone.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:35 AM
Feb 2014

I work from home a day or two a week and a tablet, or even a laptop, for that matter, isn't going to give me nearly enough screen real estate to work and for work, I really prefer a full-size keyboard. As a matter of fact, I just ordered a new desktop this week for just that purpose. Old one is 8 years old and XP, so it's necessary. Good thing, though, is that I always get small business desktop machines. Cheaper with fewer unnecessary frills and better processors and Windows 7 Pro, so this will likely be my last.

And, while the tablet is great for many things, spending a quiet evening surfing and listening to music isn't one that I'd care to do on a tablet. That's what the laptop is for.

I often joke that, between the desktop, the laptop, the tablet and the phone, a lot of the time I'm literally within arm's reach of four computers.

I'm down with most of the other nine, though.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. Lol......we have 4 desktops
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:52 PM
Feb 2014

and 1 Android ( mostly unused) for the 2 of us.
Mr. Dixie likes to have extra puters as "minions" where he tries out software he is thinking of getting.
Me, I like to use them for extra storage, they are all 500 GB.

I joke about saving money from having no tv bills, but then there is the cost, cheap as it is, of him building and re-building the puters.

Tikki

(14,561 posts)
17. More and more Seniors I know are dropping cable and some nearby have antennae
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:37 AM
Feb 2014

and just the internet.

It is cable's fault for not un-bundling the tiers and then raising the cost so very much.


Tikki

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. Dunno if it is a factor no not, but
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:43 AM
Feb 2014

I do not think I am alone in this:
Computer use ( and cell phone use) allows us to pick and choose what want to see and read and hear right now,
this minute. Very little chaff, mostly wheat.
We are in charge of our time and content.
With tv, you have to watch on their time, plus the harrassing commercials (chaff) in relation to the wheat.

I suspect that tv is just too cumbersome and slow in comparison of our other options.

Tikki

(14,561 posts)
19. Yes, and too darned expensive.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:48 AM
Feb 2014

We are paying for networks on the different tiers that we will never watch.
How is that fair.


Tikki

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
20. The tablet computer fad is annoying (RE: #7).
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:51 AM
Feb 2014

For a decent tablet (by decent, I mean one with great specs), one has to shell out $600 or $700. And a physical keyboard costs another $100. For that price, I can get an excellent laptop. I have a tablet, a 2013 Nexus 7, but I only use it at night before bed and when I'm on the toilet. Other than that, I don't find it that useful. My Galaxy Note 3 can do the same things a tablet can do. It's just another gimmicky electronic that collects dust on my desk.

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
42. I paid $10 for the pad
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:10 PM
Feb 2014

And I use it very often for biz. Check orders, process credit cards, and other stuff. Maybe it doesn't meet your high standards but it works for me.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
22. If I could pay just $100 extra to get a business class seat
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:08 AM
Feb 2014

on a trans-Pacific flight, I'd do it in a heartbeat. As it is, I can't even get 3 extra inches in Economy Comfort for that price. And even just an aisle seat in the regular economy section costs an extra $69.

SamKnause

(13,114 posts)
29. In my situation,
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 06:57 AM
Feb 2014

no landline, no internet. (There is no cable access in my area)

Switching to satellite internet is 15 to 20 dollars more expensive.

I also like knowing I can depend on my landline when the electricity is out.

P.S. I think the state of the economy; low paying jobs and unemployment would also be a factor.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
30. This article is really written from a position of privilege.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 07:31 AM
Feb 2014

They assume that everyone has access to high speed internet at their house (and $$$ to pay the bill). And flies so frequently that where you sit actually matters.

Feh.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
31. If you are a male,
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 07:38 AM
Feb 2014

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have wanted to be sitting where I was on my last trans-Pacific flight.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
34. Tv is a terrible product
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 08:39 AM
Feb 2014

Too many commercials. If I were sports fan I would be hard up but I'm not so it doesn't matter. I can get any show out there from NBC to hbo via bit torrent. Here's the funny thing though: I look for it all all on Netflix first. I find a pay service more compelling than piracy for free. They can have my money if only they provide what I'm asking for! There are some animated shows I started watching on Netflix that I have to pirate now because they can't get the damn licensing fees straight to put the new seasons on Netflix. I am willing to pay reasonable fee but I am not willing to pay extortion.

The death of commercial television is news to my ears. I do understand it will take some time in the dying.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
39. I have noticed that Netflix has fewer dvd offerings
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:58 PM
Feb 2014

and a lot more are on "long long wait" which means 6 months or more.
Netflix is focusing on its streaming biz.
but
I am rural, so only get slow dsl.
Plus, Netflix does not stream to Linux machines.

as you point out...there are options.

Herself

(185 posts)
35. I kicked the cable habit over 10 years ago. I've saved 12000 dollars
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 08:44 AM
Feb 2014

I've made several digital antenna's for less than 10$

Here's the latest one I found
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how-to/tv/build-your-own-digital-tv-antenna

I've made the clear tv antenna for 75cents using a 7.5 inch cookie tin lid.

I'm getting 14 channels because I am not bothered to put it out the window with the cold weather. I will in the spring.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
38. Good article. I am a big fan of vrbo and airbnb
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:57 PM
Feb 2014

You can get a one bedroom apartment for the cost of a hotel room in most places.

And the huge bonus is that you get a kitchen and can save a bundle on food.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
40. Getting rid of cable isn't much of an option if you're into sports or you like a nice clear picture.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:59 PM
Feb 2014

I looked into it:

1. Keeping my existing internet connection would cost nearly as much as my current cable and internet package, due to the magical world of Comcast's opaque, complicated pricing structure. (The only other option in my area is AT&T, and they make Comcast seem helpful and reliable.)

2. A la carte options were available from MLB, but the resolution would not be comparable to my cable package.

3. I would need to get some sort of streaming video service, and the resolution would be poor at times because of network congestion.

Conclusion: I wasn't going to save much money (about $10/mo during baseball season) and I was going to get significantly less for it. Not worth the trouble.

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