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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:23 AM Feb 2014

If We Have A Civil War It Will Be Over Religion. Churches Want To Make Public Policy.It's UnAmerican

Refusing services of any kind over religious views is a time to go to political war against those who propose it. People need to get publicly nasty with these legislators and then toss them out. At some point it means killing someone because they were refused a vital service. So should a Christian scientist be able to refuse treatment for a heart attack. Where will this shit end?

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If We Have A Civil War It Will Be Over Religion. Churches Want To Make Public Policy.It's UnAmerican (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 OP
I think it will be over slavery PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #1
American demographics make civil are an impossibility. nt ladjf Feb 2014 #2
As much as I hate religion, I'm going to have to disagree with you. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #3
You Are Probably Correct. Civil War Is Not Likely Here Americans Do Not Have Any Fight Left TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #5
I'd like to think some people have some fight left in them. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #10
No. HappyMe Feb 2014 #4
virtually all wars, "civil" or otherwise, are about money. unblock Feb 2014 #6
Not sure what you mean about the person who is a Christian Scientist not able to refuse treatment? jwirr Feb 2014 #7
Was it unamerican 150 years ago when Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #8
If we have a civil war religion will be entirely secondary. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #9
Nope MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #11
We're not going to have a civil war. n/t cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #12
I don't think there are Many Christian Scientist Doctors. dilby Feb 2014 #13
 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
3. As much as I hate religion, I'm going to have to disagree with you.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

If another civil war happens, it will be over wealth disparity: the have's vs the have-nots.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. You Are Probably Correct. Civil War Is Not Likely Here Americans Do Not Have Any Fight Left
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:35 AM
Feb 2014

Based on what I have seen recently over privatization issues over US36 in Colorado American citizens do not have any fight left over economic issues or probably religious issues. And if there is any unrest our police state for the rich will put it down. Look at OWS.

I was being a little provocative on purpose. It does not seem like there is anything that is not too outrageous these days.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
10. I'd like to think some people have some fight left in them.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:12 PM
Feb 2014

After all, a majority (should be all) of us here agree the haves have too much money and aren't taxed nearly enough. We also agree that the minimum wage should be increased to at least $10/hour.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
4. No.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:29 AM
Feb 2014

There are issues like the big corporations making huge campaign contributions, the poor, billionaires, voter suppression.... I find these more important.

unblock

(52,467 posts)
6. virtually all wars, "civil" or otherwise, are about money.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:38 AM
Feb 2014

religion usually is just the loyalty hook with which to drag the rest of the population along, to do the bidding of those who stand to gain or lose the most financially.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. Not sure what you mean about the person who is a Christian Scientist not able to refuse treatment?
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:44 AM
Feb 2014

We have been using living wills for this for ages - the only way I would object to this is if the government tells him he cannot refuse it for himself.

What is wrong is when some religious body thinks they can make law that will not allow personal decisions (such as abortion) because they do not believe it is right. A lot of the rw are theocrats and they do want to make our personal decisions for us. Bah to them.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. Was it unamerican 150 years ago when
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:46 AM
Feb 2014

Abolitionists were doing it?

Was it unamerican 60 years ago when southern black Christian ministers were leading the movement to abolish segregation?

It ain't who is proposing policies, it is the policies they are proposing.

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