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http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/new-mexico-begins-training-cops-use-deadly-force-less/I have a real bad feeling about this.
NEW MEXICO All new police cadets will be trained to use more deadly force, thanks to a new curriculum by director of the states Law Enforcement Academy. That training emphasis will take place in a cadet program that has been shortened by six full weeks.
Jack Jones, a retired Army colonel, was granted sole authority by the LEA over the training curriculum given to all of New Mexicos new recruits. He says the old model was too restrictive with the use of deadly force.
Evil has come to the state of New Mexico. Evil has come to the Southwest. Evil has come to the United States, Jones said to the Santa Fe New Mexican.
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A former instructor named Phillip Gallegos says he was fired by Jones because he refused to teach cadets Jones controversial philosophy about shooting fleeing vehicles.
This is the thing why are you shooting at a car? You should be shooting at the individual that is shooting at you, Gallegos said.
Another thing Mr. Jones disagrees with is teaching cadets to go for their baton when an unarmed person goes hands-on with them as an officer. The new director believes that is too restrictive on the use of force.
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When journalists filed an official request for a copy the academys new curriculum, Jones refused, saying it would give criminals an edge.
Ill burn them before you get them, he told The New Mexican.
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The decision to train cadets to shoot at fleeing vehicles comes at a sensitive time for New Mexicans. In October of last year, a New Mexico State Trooper opened fire on a minivan containing a mother and 5 children that was fleeing a traffic stop. A month later, a New Mexico State Police officer shot a female driver in the back of the head for trying to evade a traffic stop.
These officers were trained under the old standards that were too restrictive for the modern cop.
Should New Mexicans expect a rise in deadly shootings from the students of Col. Jones?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Evil has come to New Mexico in the form of him and his fanaticism.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)former9thward
(32,136 posts)We have enough refugees from other states here. But the OP is about a completely different state.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)former9thward
(32,136 posts)Grew up there.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)billh58
(6,635 posts)becoming all the rage for the police and for Second Amendment absolutists. 30,000 gun deaths a year is such a mediocre number -- let's go for 50,000, and show the world that we really are number one in instant crime solutions.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,382 posts)Than you are by any terrorist.
pragmatic_dem
(410 posts)With jobs, opportunity, education and justice you don't need a police state to keep order.
As US income disparity and injustice continues to grow, so will the police state. The rich will never shy away from spending money to protect their entitlements from the lesser classes.
People pretend they don't notice. They refuse to acknowledge it. But everyone sees it. The US has become a police state protecting the scumbags who spent the last 40 years sucking wealth out of the middle class.
And with the "new democrats" nearly impossible to distinguish from 1980 neo-cons, things are going to continue get worse before they get better.
Things won't change until Citizens United is thrown out. Right after Hell freezes over.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Create deepening chaos by taking what people need to survive, and hoarding it for themselves.....
There can be no other choice but to protect themselves from the predictable enflamed reactions of the *ahem*subhuman mongrels*ahem* (all of us, not just PBO)
Warpy
(111,437 posts)Thanks for this. Jones must be one of Gov. Martinez's pets. I can't see anyone else tolerating him.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Warpy
(111,437 posts)and a lot of people vote the name, not the person.
Add to that a certain amount of the usual Democratic apathy in an off year, and the Tejana teabagger might just get a second term.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Because this is a disaster in the making.
The coming blowback against police that think they are an occupying army in this nation will not end well.
okaawhatever
(9,478 posts)state police and ask them how much this will make the state insurance premiums go up. I'd make darn sure the insurance underwriter got his hands on that manual.
While I'd like to see Martinez voted out of office and this guy removed for the obvious reason that he's unqualified to do this job, if it can't be done that way, get it done where you can.
okaawhatever
(9,478 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Any attorneys who specialize in tort law might want to consider moving there.
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alittlelark
(18,890 posts)I have been back and forth for years. YES - parts of the city are going under - 'R' Governor ignores it. The police are undereducated and fearful for the most part.... the older ones are generally OK, but I have seen very disturbing behavior from the 30's and under crowd.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)There is SCOTUS law on fleeing vehicles. I hope his state has a lot of extra cash. The rulings are not in favor of shooting at fleeing vehicles. This us just for starters. I hear the state is beautiful though. Yet probably not in my travel plans now.
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)"routine" traffic stops for many factors. It could be something as simple as someone with a small amount of drugs on them, along with a gun, to felons possessing guns and up to major traffickers getting stopped. They'll figure if they try to run they are going to get shot at, so they might as well save the trouble and shoot the cop as he is walking up to the car.
I hate to say it, but watch and see. This IS going to happen, as long as this Jack Jones is in charge and this is the way new recruits are being trained.
As for this part:
Ill burn them before you get them, he told The New Mexican.
This sounds like a job for Anonymous!
Peace,
Ghost
Turbineguy
(37,412 posts)If you are just going to teach police to shoot people you can cut down on all that law enforcement and constitutional rights stuff.
RandiFan1290
(6,261 posts)if you know what's good for you!
Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)By hiring former military to train the police to behave as though they are in Afghanistan.