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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:38 AM Feb 2014

In Newark 700 teachers may be laid off, many replaced by TFA

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Just another part of Arne Duncan's education "reform".

From Bob Braun's Ledger. Braun is a former columnist with the NJ Star Ledger.

Bob Braun (Twitter)

Bob Braun, the legendary former columnist for The Star-Ledger, didn’t appreciate his former employer’s endorsement this past weekend of Gov. Chris Christie.

Mr. Braun, who left his job at The Ledger at the end of June, just short of the 50-year service mark, wrote a scathing reaction piece on his new blog to the editorial page’s support for Christie…


Newark: 700 teachers may be laid off, many replaced by TFA

Teach for America is one of Arne's favorite groups. Even though many of its alumni have become disillusioned with the group, he remains loyal. In many cases they are now replacing career teachers, GOOD career teachers.

The state administration of the Newark Public Schools (NPS) is expected to lay off hundreds of experienced city teachers and replace many with new hires, including more than 300 members of Teach for America (TFA). The report comes from union sources but is supported both by the latest version of the state’s “One Newark” plan and by the Walton Family Foundation website. The foundation is expected to subsidize the hiring of the new teachers.


Get that? The Walton family will subsidize this probable move. Money does buy education.

The NPS has not responded to requests for information or confirmation or denial of previous reports that Cami Anderson, the state-appointed superintendent of Newark schools, will ask outgoing state Education Commissioner Christopher Cerf to waive seniority rights of hundreds of Newark teachers. This would permit their firing without resort to the detenuring process. Members of the Newark school board, however, confirmed Anderson’s plans to “right-size” the teaching staff.


It's called union-busting.

The Walton Family Foundation website posted this note: “Due to the impact of Teach For America’s corps members and alumni in the region, the Walton Family Foundation announced that they will support the recruitment, training and support of nearly 370 Newark area teachers over the next two years. This will undoubtedly mean great things for Newark’s students, parents and communities.”

According to the union sources, Anderson will attempt to fire some 700 teachers and replace about half with new hires, including the TFA members. According to the TFA regional website, Newark schools already have hired some 200 members. They are usually graduates of liberal art programs who sign up for two years to teach in low-income areas and then leave.

Anderson herself is both a TFA graduate and an executive with the foundation-financed TFA, an organization that also receives federal subsidies.


This is not okay. Ask yourself if President Obama intended for Arne Duncan as Secretary of Education to allow things to get this out of hand? It's a good and fair question and needs to be asked.

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In Newark 700 teachers may be laid off, many replaced by TFA (Original Post) madfloridian Feb 2014 OP
Teach for America SamKnause Feb 2014 #1
Actually they call themselves a stepping stone to corporate success after 2 yrs teaching. madfloridian Feb 2014 #3
I suspect TFA is mostly a new incarnation of what the preppies used to call "slumming." reformist2 Feb 2014 #102
More than likely. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #107
Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Teachers jsr Feb 2014 #2
Amen to that. madfloridian Feb 2014 #6
As I mentioned in another post tomg Feb 2014 #4
Glad you are refusing. madfloridian Feb 2014 #5
Link to your other post please. Thanks! n/t aggiesal Feb 2014 #58
They call it "right-sizing". madfloridian Feb 2014 #7
Corporatists/neoliberals are using TFA to systematically destroy public education. jsr Feb 2014 #10
First call public schools a failure, then move in for the kill. madfloridian Feb 2014 #71
This is Chris Christie's State--BUT THIS IS OBAMA'S FAULT????? msanthrope Feb 2014 #8
TFA is strongly supported by both Obama and Arne Duncan. madfloridian Feb 2014 #9
So you dig up an article from October about layoffs in Christie's state that have NOTHING to do msanthrope Feb 2014 #12
msanthrope, the article date is today. Read it again. madfloridian Feb 2014 #13
Again--you are blaming Obama for what Christie's political appointee is doing? Anderson is a msanthrope Feb 2014 #20
Yes. madfloridian Feb 2014 #21
So now President Obama is directly responsible for Bridgegate? Because if you are going to say msanthrope Feb 2014 #22
Hahhaha erodriguez Feb 2014 #25
I'm still waiting for a reply from the OP---is President Obama responsible for Christie's appointees msanthrope Feb 2014 #28
No, you are hounding the OP and deflecting from the article's actual subject BuelahWitch Feb 2014 #36
Thank you. madfloridian Feb 2014 #39
You still haven't answered my question though--you say Obama is responsible for this Christie msanthrope Feb 2014 #41
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #46
Don't call me "honey." It is sexist and demeaning language, and you know better. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #50
Obviously not. The OP is about teachers. roody Feb 2014 #52
Then the OP should say that. I fail to see why we are holding Obama responsible for one Christie msanthrope Feb 2014 #54
You are anti teacher and trying to derail.. no one will bite MattBaggins Feb 2014 #122
You're welcome BuelahWitch Feb 2014 #48
Excuse me??? This is about an unsourced report about a Christie appointee, who madflo says Obama msanthrope Feb 2014 #40
that's just about the most obvious smokescreen attempt to change the subject ever.... mike_c Feb 2014 #61
Well, I also asked if TFA was union under the NPS bargaining agreement. I'd love an answer to that! msanthrope Feb 2014 #62
Of course not awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #108
I usually don't reply because it just makes matters worse. madfloridian Feb 2014 #34
Thats because people like misanthrope always show up spouting the same thing. erodriguez Feb 2014 #72
At the very least...could you please spell my username correctly? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #80
It's not worth replying. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #77
Madfloridian said nothing about bridge gate. Where did you get that? AllyCat Feb 2014 #98
Not union AllyCat Feb 2014 #97
The Newark School District is not run by the state. former9thward Feb 2014 #15
Wasn't it Newark that got huge money from Mark Zuckerberg...Yes, looked it up. madfloridian Feb 2014 #16
right--an Abbott district, run by Christie's appointee....Anderson.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #18
They are an Abbott district, which, in NJ means state run---here's Christie's appointee-- msanthrope Feb 2014 #17
You are right but to say TFA has nothing to do with the federal government is just not true. former9thward Feb 2014 #24
The "highly qualified teacher" rule is a slap in the face to experienced teachers... madfloridian Feb 2014 #26
Or, maybe it's a correct judgment of the value of Education programs across the country. msanthrope Feb 2014 #38
You know what? That is so uncalled for. It is rude and untrue. Discuss honestly. madfloridian Feb 2014 #43
What is rude and untrue? I am relating my own personal experience. Just because it is not your msanthrope Feb 2014 #49
You "taught for a while.". How long? roody Feb 2014 #76
Your questioning is rather hostile...and since I've already been alerted on once in this thread, I msanthrope Feb 2014 #79
How long? is a simple question. nt roody Feb 2014 #82
Someone who has a four-year degree from a top-rate school is not AllyCat Feb 2014 #99
Now the BOG has gone far right on education Doctor_J Feb 2014 #85
Bullshit. Nobody learns how to manage roody Feb 2014 #74
TFA's been around for 20 years..and yes, they get federal funding, but Newark schools are msanthrope Feb 2014 #27
the neediest classrooms need stability madrchsod Feb 2014 #42
I agree, completely....but teachers with tenure don't stay in the neediest classrooms... msanthrope Feb 2014 #53
That depends entirely on the school system and department. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #101
Was your system allowed to move tenured teachers from school to school, as needed, and msanthrope Feb 2014 #104
Tenured teachers were allowed to be moved,as needed by the district Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #112
Ah...the difference in LAUSD was that they could cherry pick, and then, if moved, msanthrope Feb 2014 #117
That's why I said it depended on where you were. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #118
That was a good system. tn msanthrope Feb 2014 #119
Everything is Obamas fault. lol SummerSnow Feb 2014 #33
And unsourced article from a blogger, about a Christie appointee. THANKS OBAMA!!! nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #55
It's absolutely ridiculous. ProSense Feb 2014 #92
This administration has provided billions to states rpannier Feb 2014 #100
^This ^. n/t Smarmie Doofus Feb 2014 #105
+1 merrily Feb 2014 #115
Of course it was intended. woo me with science Feb 2014 #11
We are in the corporate state because there is no opposition. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #14
Teach for America has totally changed what they published in the past few years. Sunlei Feb 2014 #19
And we have a local strike, entering day four nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #23
If the blond woman or the serious man doesn't announce it at 6 pm, it doesn't exist. jsr Feb 2014 #31
You got to add on CNN nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #64
Would you believe I just got around to checking my DU mail? madfloridian Feb 2014 #67
No worries. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #69
Good grief, they are giving teachers almost an 8% pay cut there. madfloridian Feb 2014 #86
Unfair Labor Practices nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #88
And, when inevitably, the testing scores go down n2doc Feb 2014 #29
Test scores aren't the issue seattledo Feb 2014 #78
Shame Shame Shame Teamster Jeff Feb 2014 #30
"Subsidize" the Hiring and Teaching of Some 370 "New" Teachers to "Teach" Education...There's sure bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #32
we know obama knew what duncan`s plans were. madrchsod Feb 2014 #35
Both Obama and Duncan addressed the 20th reunion of TFA. Gave their approval. madfloridian Feb 2014 #37
And why shouldn't the President address TFA? msanthrope Feb 2014 #45
K&R thanks madfloridian. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #44
If Obama didn't intend Arne to destroy public education emsimon33 Feb 2014 #47
And he didn't. madfloridian Feb 2014 #60
Want to see what the Arne Duncan model of public education in action? Jake Stern Feb 2014 #51
Arne said Katrina was the best thing to happen to New Orleans schools, said Detroit next. madfloridian Feb 2014 #91
Blatant, eh? Jake Stern Feb 2014 #93
That is right out of the Milton Friedman playbook of disaster capitalism. LuvNewcastle Feb 2014 #111
If that's the model Sgent Feb 2014 #103
Alarming...As The Corporate Financiers of Greed Have Virtually Captured the Market of bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #56
Cory Booker will be PLEASED! Agony Feb 2014 #57
I knew Bob Braun when I worked at the Star-Ledger LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #59
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #63
They won't be happy... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #65
kr El_Johns Feb 2014 #66
Newark parents can't find out where kids will go to school in fall. It's a secret. madfloridian Feb 2014 #68
Hmmm...and how many administrators are getting laid off? progressoid Feb 2014 #70
The 'savings' will be repurposed to 'supplement' staff jsr Feb 2014 #73
ain't that the truth. Education "reform" = fewer teachers, more administrators. And consultants. El_Johns Feb 2014 #75
This enterprise should outrage all parents, regardless of political party. Historical Legal Turf: Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #81
Failure to fund public education....the new normal. madfloridian Feb 2014 #87
Put in to an analogy that's easy to understand Jake Stern Feb 2014 #94
Yep, that just about covers it. madfloridian Feb 2014 #95
Has their been any push to keep Walmart out of NJ? I see that there are some stores Hestia Feb 2014 #83
Duncan and Christie and Duncan's boss are anti-union and anti-public education Doctor_J Feb 2014 #84
Yep. jsr Feb 2014 #110
K&R hay rick Feb 2014 #89
Change You Can Believe In! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #90
So this is all Obama's doing? B Calm Feb 2014 #113
yup...there`s no way around that fact madrchsod Feb 2014 #123
.... madfloridian Feb 2014 #124
great white hopes from $70K a year universities pragmatic_dem Feb 2014 #96
Christie needs to GO. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #106
Reagan Hated Unions. Octafish Feb 2014 #109
Screw Duncan. nt merrily Feb 2014 #114
Another Boss Norcross scam The Wizard Feb 2014 #116
Strike! Dirty Socialist Feb 2014 #120
K&R liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #121

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
3. Actually they call themselves a stepping stone to corporate success after 2 yrs teaching.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:44 AM
Feb 2014

They are using the schools, displacing teachers, to provide a step up for their grads with 5 weeks teaching training.

tomg

(2,574 posts)
4. As I mentioned in another post
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:46 AM
Feb 2014

I have been asked to write letters of reference for students applying to Teach for America. I won't and I explain why. I also tell them that if they are serious about teaching and they started late, there are great MAT programs.

thanks, Madfloridian, for your posts on education.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
7. They call it "right-sizing".
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:03 AM
Feb 2014
The mass layoff of experienced teachers and their replacement by new and untrained college graduates is part of Anderson’s “One Newark” plan that seeks to expand charter school enrollments, close conventional neighborhood public schools, and sell off school property.”Right-sizing” staff and hiring “quality” teachers also are mentioned in the latest version of the plan.


It is the hijacking of public education being done by both parties, and few speak out lest they be called haters. How about that?

jsr

(7,712 posts)
10. Corporatists/neoliberals are using TFA to systematically destroy public education.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:14 AM
Feb 2014

The pattern is pervasive and undeniable.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
71. First call public schools a failure, then move in for the kill.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:09 PM
Feb 2014

Simple formula. And brutal...because their side has the money and power.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
8. This is Chris Christie's State--BUT THIS IS OBAMA'S FAULT?????
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:07 AM
Feb 2014

Newark Public Schools is run by the state--but somehow this is now Obama's fault???

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
9. TFA is strongly supported by both Obama and Arne Duncan.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:10 AM
Feb 2014

I have written about it often. I would not post it if it were not true. Welcome to the thread, you were expected.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. So you dig up an article from October about layoffs in Christie's state that have NOTHING to do
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014

with the President, for what reason?

FYI--aren't the TFA people in NPS union members?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
13. msanthrope, the article date is today. Read it again.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:26 AM
Feb 2014

The first one about Bob Braun is from Oct.....I gave it as a reference point for who the guy is.

I don't mind criticism, but please read the post first.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
20. Again--you are blaming Obama for what Christie's political appointee is doing? Anderson is a
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:44 AM
Feb 2014

Christie appointee, and you think the President is to blame???? This is an unsourced blogger's report, and I'd like to know if you actually have a budget proposal.


Downthread, you are supporting the idea that NPS is locally run, when it is in fact, state run, with a Christie appointee.

Also, you didn't answer my question--if TFA is working in NPS, then aren't they bound by the collective bargaining agreement to be in the union? I could be wrong on that, and I'd like clarification.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
22. So now President Obama is directly responsible for Bridgegate? Because if you are going to say
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:48 AM
Feb 2014

the President is responsible for Cami Anderson, Christie appointee, then why isn't he responsible for all the appointees in Bridgegate????

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
28. I'm still waiting for a reply from the OP---is President Obama responsible for Christie's appointees
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:15 PM
Feb 2014

on Bridgegate????

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
36. No, you are hounding the OP and deflecting from the article's actual subject
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:24 PM
Feb 2014

It isn't about the bridge, it's about teaching.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
41. You still haven't answered my question though--you say Obama is responsible for this Christie
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:28 PM
Feb 2014

appointee...

Is he responsible for Bridgegate?

Response to msanthrope (Reply #41)

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
54. Then the OP should say that. I fail to see why we are holding Obama responsible for one Christie
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:53 PM
Feb 2014

appointee but not another.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
48. You're welcome
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:35 PM
Feb 2014

Thank you for telling us about what's going on in education. These union busters have to be stopped.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
40. Excuse me??? This is about an unsourced report about a Christie appointee, who madflo says Obama
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:26 PM
Feb 2014

is responsible for.

Madflo decided to bring up Duncan and Obama, and I am asking what they are responsible for.....you read her answer.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
61. that's just about the most obvious smokescreen attempt to change the subject ever....
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:06 PM
Feb 2014

Masterful obfuscation. An example for us all!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
62. Well, I also asked if TFA was union under the NPS bargaining agreement. I'd love an answer to that!
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:12 PM
Feb 2014
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
108. Of course not
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:44 AM
Feb 2014

He isn't even responsible for his own appointees. The buck stops somewhere over there.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
34. I usually don't reply because it just makes matters worse.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:22 PM
Feb 2014

But it is so obviously wrong to lay off all those teachers and hire temps like TFAers, that I really thought it would be understood.

Arne and Obama have both expressed highly favorable views of this group and the way it is helping the move to privatization and corporatization of education.

I find it hard to post without this happening.

erodriguez

(665 posts)
72. Thats because people like misanthrope always show up spouting the same thing.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:10 PM
Feb 2014

I would swear they must have some kind of stake in the game. Maybe it's just their job to post and muddy the water with bullshit.

AllyCat

(16,259 posts)
98. Madfloridian said nothing about bridge gate. Where did you get that?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:54 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:42 AM - Edit history (1)

former9thward

(32,124 posts)
15. The Newark School District is not run by the state.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:34 AM
Feb 2014

Guess you don't know how local school districts work. They are run by a local school board and receive money from Newark, the state and federal government.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
16. Wasn't it Newark that got huge money from Mark Zuckerberg...Yes, looked it up.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:40 AM
Feb 2014

Now that I think of it...it was.

Christie, Booker, Zuckerberg and Newark schools....questions of legality?

What you fail to miss is that this is a governor and a mayor essentially allowing the takeover of a major public school district by a private enterprise. That alone is illegal and in my view immoral. Anyone who thinks that shutting down public schools by a governor at whim is not a major threat to our democracy then they need to take off the blinders. This act goes against the very grain and foundation of what this country stands for. He is violating the law and doing it with supreme contempt. Today it may be a poor and failing district but trust me they will attempt to do this statewide. I hope he is ready because there will be major repercussions from what this governor and mayor are doing. I truly hopes this opens the eyes of voters to the fact that both republicans and democrats in this state are corrupt to the core and will violate every law imaginable to enrich themselves and their friends.

Facebook CEO names head of foundation to control Newark Schools

former9thward

(32,124 posts)
24. You are right but to say TFA has nothing to do with the federal government is just not true.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:00 PM
Feb 2014
He did not note, however, that it was his (Arne Duncan's) Education Department that persuaded Congress to include in the definition of “highly qualified teacher” student teachers and Teach For America recruits who get five weeks of summer training before being assigned to some of America’s neediest classrooms.

They get their funding from the federal government among others.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/01/18/arne-duncan-why-cant-we-be-more-like-south-korea/

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
26. The "highly qualified teacher" rule is a slap in the face to experienced teachers...
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:09 PM
Feb 2014

with years of training in working with students. It is doing great harm.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
38. Or, maybe it's a correct judgment of the value of Education programs across the country.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:25 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:06 PM - Edit history (1)

If the equivalent of a BA in Education can be given in 5 weeks, and a year of continued, intensive professional development, then maybe that speaks more to what colleges offer than anything else.

My own personal experience of working with both traditional track teachers and TFAs in the Philly school system was that the TFAs came in with a lesser skill level than traditional track, but by 6 months in, that evened out, due to the continuing professional development courses TFA gave them.

What was striking, however, was that TFAs were better educated. Hands down, they were more erudite than the traditional track teachers, more open to technology, and more able to access culture and the arts for the benefit of the students. They were also far more willing to commit to poor schools.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
49. What is rude and untrue? I am relating my own personal experience. Just because it is not your
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:40 PM
Feb 2014

personal experience, it does not make it either rude, or untrue.

This was my experience of these two groups. I dropped my Ed major in college for something more difficult, and took a MAT (easiest classes I ever took). Taught for a while, and then got my JD. (After picking up another M.A.)

I found the TFAs, to a person, to have gone to better schools and to be more interested in working in poorer areas. What was your experience with TFAs?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
79. Your questioning is rather hostile...and since I've already been alerted on once in this thread, I
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:10 PM
Feb 2014

think I'll disengage, lest itchy fingers hit the button again!

AllyCat

(16,259 posts)
99. Someone who has a four-year degree from a top-rate school is not
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:59 PM
Feb 2014

Necessarily, and probably unlikely to be, trained to TEACH

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
85. Now the BOG has gone far right on education
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:09 PM
Feb 2014

just like health care and soon TPP. Anything The Messiah does must be the right thing.

roody

(10,849 posts)
74. Bullshit. Nobody learns how to manage
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

a classroom and kids in professional development. You learn to do it well by practicing, more than 6 months. Is TFA your employer?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
27. TFA's been around for 20 years..and yes, they get federal funding, but Newark schools are
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:14 PM
Feb 2014

state run...the state, and a Christie appointee decides how to run it.

Look...TFA isn't going away. As long as they fulfill a market need---the neediest classrooms, their model will be here.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
42. the neediest classrooms need stability
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:29 PM
Feb 2014

they need teachers who know the community. they need stability within the school. they need teachers who can follow students from one grade to the next.

hiring kids from colleges who have 0 experience in those neediest schools is boarding on the absurd. the teachers will move on to better schools and those neediest kids will be stuck with another graduating class of tfa teachers.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
53. I agree, completely....but teachers with tenure don't stay in the neediest classrooms...
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:52 PM
Feb 2014

they move, and then, when layoffs hit, the neediest classrooms are hit disproportionately by the layoffs....

And then you get lawsuits like this, and settlements...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/msanthrope

Ms. Toad

(34,124 posts)
101. That depends entirely on the school system and department.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:37 AM
Feb 2014

I was a teacher with tenure, a master's degree, and eleven years of experience when I left teaching. Every single teacher in my department (tenured or not) taught our fair share of the neediest classes (whether we wanted to or not). In a schedule of 5-6 classes every year, always two - and often three - of mine were the neediest classrooms. Tenure gives you certainty that you have a job from year to year (non-tenured teachers can be terminated for any reason at all at the end of each year). It does not inherently give you choice of classes you teach.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
104. Was your system allowed to move tenured teachers from school to school, as needed, and
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:46 AM
Feb 2014

as determined by the district? When firings happened due to budgets, who was first fired?

I think you are missing the point of the lawsuit...layoff were not spread evenly, district wide.

Ms. Toad

(34,124 posts)
112. Tenured teachers were allowed to be moved,as needed by the district
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:41 AM
Feb 2014

The last hired, non-tenured individuals were fired first, followed by the last hired tenured individuals

That would have hit whichever buildings the most inexperienced teachers were in - which, in our district was not linked to tenure. Tenured teachers had no more right to cherry-pick where they wanted to work than anyone else.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
117. Ah...the difference in LAUSD was that they could cherry pick, and then, if moved,
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:42 AM
Feb 2014

file a grievance that to take a very long time to resolve. As you saw from the lawsuit, some of the poorest schools lost between 45 and 75 percent of their teachers.

Ms. Toad

(34,124 posts)
118. That's why I said it depended on where you were.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:21 PM
Feb 2014

The practice of allowing experienced teachers (tenured or not) select the most desired classes may be good for retention of experienced teachers, but it is lousy for getting good teaching staff where they need to be. That is why the department I worked in insisted that everyone - regardless of experience or tenure - teach some of the least desired classes every year. And nothing in the contract prohibited moving tenured teachers wherever they were needed.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
92. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:02 PM
Feb 2014

It's like the President is micromanaging everything in every city and state. Yet, no one in that state is at fault.

Why would a union endorse Christie over Buono?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024553528

rpannier

(24,350 posts)
100. This administration has provided billions to states
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:27 AM
Feb 2014

but only if they adopt charter schools as part of their plan
Arne Duncan has teamed with Bill Gates to create more charter schools, that are non-union (be cause Gates doesn't like them)
this is why the administration bears part of the responsibility. It teams with gates and Rhee and other anti-union, TFA hanging organizations.
This is part of the reason why they get blamed and why they deserve it.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
11. Of course it was intended.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:21 AM
Feb 2014

It is consistent with the overwhelming corporate direction of this administration.

Only a Republican could go to China...and only a Democrat can dismantle public education for privatization and profit.

Education: The "Big Enchilada"
http://www.billtotten.blogspot.com/2007/08/big-enchilada.html

Some years ago, a friend who works on Wall Street handed me a stock-market prospectus in which a group of analysts at an investment-banking firm known as Montgomery Securities described the financial benefits to be derived from privatizing our public schools. "The education industry", according to these analysts, "represents, in our opinion, the final frontier of a number of sectors once under public control" that "have either voluntarily opened" or, they note in pointed terms, have "been forced" to open up to private enterprise.

Indeed, they write, "the education industry represents the largest market opportunity" since health-care services were privatized during the 1970s... "The larger developing opportunity is in the K-12 EMO market, led by private elementary school providers..." From the point of view of private profit, one of these analysts enthusiastically observes, "the K-12 market is the Big Enchilada."






Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. Teach for America has totally changed what they published in the past few years.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:43 AM
Feb 2014

bet they will be on the stock exchange soon.

ref http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=4849403

Company Overview

Teach For America, Inc., a nonprofit company, provides teachers for low-income communities in the United States. It operates as corps of recent college graduates and professionals of various academic majors and career interests. The company’s corps members commit to teach in urban and rural public schools. It also offers early childhood education, math and science, and teach for all initiatives to address needs in education. The company was founded in 1990 and is based in New York, New York.


Teach For America, Inc. Key Developments


Teach for America, Inc. and Buffalo Public Schools Announce Partnership Agreement

Dec 12 13

Teach For America and Buffalo Public Schools have announced a partnership agreement slated to begin next fall. Under the agreement, Teach For America would recruit, train, and develop up to 30 new teachers per year for high-need schools and subject areas in the city's public schools.......... continues at above link.


Now TFA is Union busting and replaces 700 teachers with recent college grads?



 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. And we have a local strike, entering day four
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:53 AM
Feb 2014

but that matters not, since that is my back yard.



Yup, for some silly reason I am following that since it could set the pace for the destruction of California education.

Sorry, if it is not on CNN, or MSNBC, it is not news. My bad.

Oh and I just checked, it is in neither, so it is not yet news. It is not happening

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
67. Would you believe I just got around to checking my DU mail?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:01 PM
Feb 2014

You are right. That article is the only one I have seen about that. But not surprised. Remember all the anti-war protests with millions that didn't exist because the networks did not cover it?

Any time we protest the corporate agenda there is no coverage. That's the rule. Reading the article now.

Thanks for checking. I think your mail and others came in at a time when I was fighting off my 2nd potential browser hijacking from updating my regular programs. So tired of that. I probably hurriedly checked mail then promptly forgot. I do that a lot lately.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
69. No worries.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:26 PM
Feb 2014

I used to post them here because msm garble, garble... But it has been made immensely clear the owners only want msm material. So do most posters all protestations to the side.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
88. Unfair Labor Practices
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:06 PM
Feb 2014

yup.

But it is in local news, so it is not happening. Sorry, I am to the point that I think this place is mostly useless.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
29. And, when inevitably, the testing scores go down
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:17 PM
Feb 2014

Existing long term teachers will be blamed.

Who can justify hiring teachers who only plan on being there 2 years, then leaving? What sort of business does this? Only education, so far as I can tell.

 

seattledo

(295 posts)
78. Test scores aren't the issue
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 05:55 PM
Feb 2014

They may go up because of younger, more energetic teachers that the students can better relate to, but that doesn't matter. It's the wholesale firing of employees that is morally wrong. It's their jobs that Christie is giving to other people.

Teamster Jeff

(1,598 posts)
30. Shame Shame Shame
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

But the corporatists know no shame. Yes Obama intended this. Yes Obama endorses this right wing privatization scam. Charters and all.

bkanderson76

(266 posts)
32. "Subsidize" the Hiring and Teaching of Some 370 "New" Teachers to "Teach" Education...There's sure
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

gonna be a lot of teaching going on in Newark....The key question might be - are the kids getting any?
Good luck, "right sizing" the teaching staff doesn't add up to giving the kids the "right stuff"....save the dime you idiots

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
35. we know obama knew what duncan`s plans were.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:23 PM
Feb 2014

he has supported duncan`s plan in chicago and he by appointing duncan he gave the go ahead to take it nationally.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
47. If Obama didn't intend Arne to destroy public education
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:34 PM
Feb 2014

then Obama would have fired the bastard during his first term.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
51. Want to see what the Arne Duncan model of public education in action?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:45 PM
Feb 2014

Check out New Orleans Public Schools. Louisiana came in, took over nearly all of the public schools and made them into for profit charters leaving New Orleanians with virtually no say over the schools their children attend.

Yes I know this actually happened under Bush but the plan that education "reformers" like Duncan are pushing will ultimately lead to this.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
91. Arne said Katrina was the best thing to happen to New Orleans schools, said Detroit next.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:56 PM
Feb 2014
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/7898

"The hurricane reference was made while he was in New Orleans Friday.

“I see the progress here in New Orleans and I ask, 'Why not Detroit?' We don't need to wait for a hurricane before we can reform schools. I even think Detroit can leapfrog New Orleans.”


AND here is what he said about New Orleans.

"ABC News' Mary Bruce Reports: Education Secretary Arne Duncan said today that Hurricane Katrina was "the best thing that happened to the education system in New Orleans" because it gave the city a chance to rebuild and improve its failing public schools.


In an interview to air this weekend on "Washington Watch with Roland Martin" Duncan said "that education system was a disaster. And it took Hurricane Katrina to wake up the community to say that we have to do better."

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
93. Blatant, eh?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:24 PM
Feb 2014

"And it took Hurricane Katrina to wake up the community to say that we have to do better."

Then let the people of New Orleans vote on whether to restore control of all public schools in the city to the Orleans Parish School Board.

Education "reformers" never want their plans put to a vote of the people. Why is that?

LuvNewcastle

(16,864 posts)
111. That is right out of the Milton Friedman playbook of disaster capitalism.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 03:41 AM
Feb 2014

Obama might as well have Bill Kristol running the Dept. of Education.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
103. If that's the model
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:43 AM
Feb 2014

then I hope its implemented nationwide in all failing school systems:

I know people in my age group who are moving back into the city so their children have access to the charter schools. Every single one of those same people went to private schools or schools on the northshore / Jefferson.

The system before Katrina was dysfunctional, and had been for at least two decades.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-big-easys-school-revolution/2012/04/27/gIQAS4bDmT_story.html

A young woman whose grades earned her the distinction of valedictorian of her 2003 high school class, Green never gave the commencement speech or walked across the stage with her classmates. Despite five tries, she was unable to pass the math-competency exit exam required for graduation.

Green’s story is emblematic of the hopelessness that used to mark New Orleans’s schools. No matter how smart or hardworking or well-meaning the system’s leaders, there was no chance for sustainable improvement, given the enormity of its dysfunction. Then the levees broke and the city was devastated, and out of that destruction came the need to build a new system, one that today is accompanied by buoyant optimism. Since 2006, New Orleans students have halved the achievement gap with their state counterparts. They are on track to, in the next five years, make this the first urban city in the country to exceed its state’s average test scores. The share of students proficient on state tests rose from 35?percent in 2005 to 56 percent in 2011; 40?percent of students attended schools identified by the state as “academically unacceptable” in 2011, down from 78 percent in 2005.

bkanderson76

(266 posts)
56. Alarming...As The Corporate Financiers of Greed Have Virtually Captured the Market of
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:05 PM
Feb 2014

American incarceration and rehabilitation, they are now permitted to 'invest' within the public educational system.
As your child enters the first day of kinder-garden, and for possibly the next twelve years, the utmost concern now is a
bottom line profit.
Between the corporate control of the prisons and the corporate control of the schools, one might very well assume these greedy money exchangers will have our society ruined within a generation at their own discretion.
It will be the investment trifecta - Schools....Prisons....War....good luck kids

Agony

(2,605 posts)
57. Cory Booker will be PLEASED!
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:09 PM
Feb 2014
https://www.teachforamerica.org/press-room/press-releases/2011/85-new-teach-for-america-teachers-join-local-efforts-expand-educational-opportunity

“I am personally excited to welcome new Teach For America corps members to our city,” said Mayor Cory Booker. “I have seen firsthand the passion and the energy they bring to the classroom and the difference they make in the lives of their students.”
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
59. I knew Bob Braun when I worked at the Star-Ledger
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:32 PM
Feb 2014

back in the 1980s. Always liked and admired him.

Christie showed his true colors when he called NJ teachers "union thugs" several years ago. I suppose he thinks he learned to read and write and do math all on his own.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
63. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:28 PM
Feb 2014

I don't think President Obama and Arne Duncan consider things to be "out of hand".

I suspect they think things are going swimmingly. I think they dismiss our concerns as so much liberal claptrap.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
65. They won't be happy...
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:53 PM
Feb 2014

until they have destroyed every union, and they even get democratic presidents to go right along with them.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
68. Newark parents can't find out where kids will go to school in fall. It's a secret.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:25 PM
Feb 2014

Another Bob Braun piece on the outrages of Newark and the hostile takeover that appears to be going on.

Cami to Newark parents: Don’t worry, we know best.

There's apparently a new way of assigning students, but the method is secretive.

Pity the parents of Newark’s public school children. Many are unsure where their children will attend school in the fall. They’ve had to fill out application forms and hope they get their first choices in an ever-changing program called “One Newark.” For many, if their first choice was a neighborhood public school, they’re out of luck. Now comes a new insult—if they want to know how their children were picked for this school or that, they can just forget it. That’s secret information. They’re not allowed to know.

But, hey, no worries. The decisions will be made by a NPS staff with lots of experience with organizations like the Broad Academy, funded by the Eli and Edythe Broad Foundation. One worked with Barclay’s Capital, another with McKinsey & Co. Newark parents can feel comfortable their children are in the hands of people trained in business and by billionaires who understand completely what it’s like to be poor and live in Newark. Right.

The response from Anderson to CASA’s formal request under the Open Public Records Act (OPRA) was, yes, such an algorithm exists—but, no, you can’t have it. Why? Well, because it wasn’t developed by the Newark public schools. Rather it somehow came from that private sector giant—secretly–determining so much of what is happening, and what will happen, to Newark’s children: the Foundation for Newark’s Future (FNF).

Ah, yes, the FNF. Begun with money announced on a television show starring Chris Christie, Cory Booker, and Mark Zuckerberg, the billionaire hero to school privatization efforts in Newark. He gave $100 million to Newark via his old pal Booker on an Oprah Winfrey show.


That's how you buy public schools. A hundred million at a time.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
73. The 'savings' will be repurposed to 'supplement' staff
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:16 PM
Feb 2014

like adding more family members and cronies to the administrative payroll for well-paying bullshit jobs.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
75. ain't that the truth. Education "reform" = fewer teachers, more administrators. And consultants.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 05:26 PM
Feb 2014

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
81. This enterprise should outrage all parents, regardless of political party. Historical Legal Turf:
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 07:03 PM
Feb 2014

snip*New Jersey education reformers play their crafty game on historic legal turf. The state has extensive jurisprudence protecting poor students’ rights to a quality education. According to the Education Law Center (ELC) website (www.edlawcenter.org), the center won “Abbot v. Burke” in a 1985 New Jersey Supreme Court decision; it is the most important national legal decision regarding education equality after Brown v. the Board of Education in Topeka, KS 1954.

In Abbott, the ELC argued that unconstitutional funding disparities existed between poor urban and wealthy suburban school districts because of New Jersey’s method of school funding, and therefore poorer urban districts could not meet their students’ educational needs. A subsequent wave of decisions came after this initial Abbott decision. Abbott’s legacy applies today in urban districts included in the Garden State’s School Funding Reform Act (SFRA) of 2008. According to the ELC website, after the New Jersey legislature accepted Christie’s $1.1 billion in education cuts: “On May 24, 2011…the New Jersey Supreme Court found that the State’s failure to fund SFRA caused “instructionally consequential and significant” harm to at-risk students in districts across the state.” The Court also found that the funding cut’s harm is not a “minor infringement” to students’ right to a thorough and efficient education, but “a real substantial and consequential blow” to that right. In Abbott XXI, the Court ordered full funding for the 31 urban districts in 2012.

Well, guess what? That court-ordered full funding hasn’t happened. On January 21, 2014, the ELC posted a web article stating the DOE won’t fix New Jersey’s urban schools, but they have been on an administrative spending bender. The School Development Authority (SDA), which oversees New Jersey urban school district spending, is now headed by former United States Attorney for New Jersey, Charles McKenna. (One wonders how his work with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and the Office of Homeland Security prepared him for his new career in urban schools. But consider Janet Napolitano’s transition from Homeland Security to University of California president as a precedent: from the War on Terror to the War on Teachers. ) The SDA has $2.9 billion in unspent bonded financing for construction projects. The ELC website reports that: “…there is new evidence that SDA will continue on its present course of undertaking as little work as possible in order not to spend down the available funds.” ELC cites the SDA’s new Builders insurance policy as evidence of their backwards priorities.

ELC’s statement regarding administrative spending and the lack of real school improvement projects coincided with two other urban school improvement announcements: a January 20, 2014, announcement of $100 million for school improvement projects, and a January 21, 2014, announcement about remodeling plans for dilapidated Trenton High School. But don’t let these announcements fool you into thinking the DOE gives a damn about students.

Small Circles

The fat cats want to conquer New Jersey public schools by next year. And this has been the plan for a while now—in no small thanks to former Newark mayor and now U.S. Senator Cory Booker. Black Agenda Report’s Glen Ford recently wrote: “By 2016, thanks to both Booker and Christie, charter schools will account for more than a third of Newark’s student enrollment.” Ford reports that Booker, a Democrat whose political career is largely due to his championing the private voucher agenda, will most likely “…back Republican Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander’s bill to transfer about 41 percent of federal public school moneys to the states, which could then turn the funds into vouchers.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/31/new-jerseys-education-cerf-dumb/

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
87. Failure to fund public education....the new normal.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:57 PM
Feb 2014

Turning those funds over to charter schools and vouchers for private religious schools.

And we are supposed to turn our heads and pretend we don't notice.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
94. Put in to an analogy that's easy to understand
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:32 PM
Feb 2014

The method of crushing public schools is like getting rid of an unwanted dog by systematically starving it then pointing at it's weakened, emaciated body and saying "What a tragedy! There's no way to save it. It has to be put down."

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
83. Has their been any push to keep Walmart out of NJ? I see that there are some stores
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 07:45 PM
Feb 2014

but less than in Ark. This whole article sounds like payback - in their insidious little minds...doin' it cause they can

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
84. Duncan and Christie and Duncan's boss are anti-union and anti-public education
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:07 PM
Feb 2014

I don't think the president considers this "getting out of hand" - it's exactly what he as a far right corporatist has wanted ever since the day after the 2008 election

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
123. yup...there`s no way around that fact
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:26 AM
Feb 2014

he appointed duncan and he knew what duncan was going to do. the president can`t hide that fact

 

pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
96. great white hopes from $70K a year universities
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:52 PM
Feb 2014

absolving their guilt by spending a few months in a classroom filled with poor kids who they'll never see again.

Teach For America’s pro-corporate, union-busting agenda
How TFA uses its vast political influence to boost charter schools and drive down teacher pay (UPDATED)

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/13/teach_for_americas_pro_corporate_union_busting_agenda_partner/







The Wizard

(12,554 posts)
116. Another Boss Norcross scam
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:36 AM
Feb 2014

being perpetrated against NJ and spearheaded by the the corrupt Chris Christie. Another step in the privatization of government being promoted by the Koch Klux Klan.

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