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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hear this from so many Rethugs, "Obama is the worst President in history"
But none of them give any concrete or factual proof that he is. What makes someone the worst President in US history?
I can think of a million things but nothing I saw Obama do or say makes him that. He's not perfect but who the hell is?
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)Otherwise your post is kind of incoherent.
/grammar police
Cirque du So-What
(26,025 posts)Presidentin' While Black.
If you're a bigoted ignoramus hellbent on preserving the vestiges of white privilege, it's the most heinous of crimes.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)It's on the tip of their tongue. I am surprised that none of them publicly called him the 'n' word yet.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Cirque du So-What
(26,025 posts)they make up shit as a means to hanging surrogate epithets on him - most notably 'furriner' (born in Kenya, yunno), 'socialist' (although that one is hard to understand, considering the number of Wall Street muckity-mucks he's had as advisors) and 'Mooslim' (it's right there in his name, yunno). I smile to myself as I imagine conservatives using every ounce of self-control to refrain from actually admitting that's the reason, knowing that they don't hesitate to grouse among themselves in private. Speaking of which...I'm still waiting for the day when one of them - higher-level the better - drops the n-word in front of an ostensibly 'dead' microphone.
JHB
(37,163 posts)Answer: not many, and those who are took a break from it.
How many of them can even name the presidents, much less evaluate them?
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)McCain wanted to win the Presidency so bad that he was willing to risk the whole country by choosing Palin as his VP. Cheney, need I say more about the war criminal.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Of all the anti-Obama people in my life ( work/play/family ) they are all narrow ignorant imbeciles by nature; politics aside. They use "angry drunk logic"...that is, whatever gut instinct rage du-jour makes them feel good in venting.
In the grand scheme of things, they don't add up to a mound of monkey shit, other than their ballot box habits.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)But Rethugs will tell you he never existed for 8 years
underpants
(182,989 posts)We are 5 years into Obama's time !!! (note they don't say Presidency)
Those are the usual responses...just as the dashboard (and Fox News) told them to say.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Just like they say they don't like socialism while they love SS and medicare and soon we can add ADA to that list.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Try to take away their socialism and see what happens.lol
Johonny
(20,941 posts)who they love. And they wonder why we have no respect for them at all.
madamesilverspurs
(15,814 posts)when I ask them to elaborate, their answer runs along the lines of "I'm entitled to my opinion!" The tenth one is usually something like "You're just an Obama worshipper."
Now and then they'll get all huffy and give me both responses. Oooooooo.
Are we having fun, yet?
demwing
(16,916 posts)They don't have well though out responses, just accusations that wouldn't apply (in their minds) to a President with white skin.
There used to be a video floating around the web, where an amateur journalist asks tea party rally attendees for specific examples of what they are protesting. None were able to give answers that reflected reality.
underpants
(182,989 posts)It has become fact to them, not even a belief but a fact to them.
They starting saying it the day he was inaugurated. The "Tea Party movement" made into a thing-to-do and we Americans we do almost anything if it is a thing-to-do.
rockbluff botanist
(71 posts)When I hear the extremely ignorant saying that, I remind them that Pres. Obama didn't kill 4,000-plus other peoples children (middle class and poor mostly) and wreck the economy like Bush and his repbuglicans. It is especially nice when the said moron is unemployed. It does hit home and they never have a reply.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)... in history. Like their gibbering invective constitutes fact.
I often do not agree with this administration's policies. But he will be seen as an effective President, and one that -- look out -- enacted some positive "change." The ACA, improvements in gay rights at the federal level, the end of Iraq.
They're outraged because they weren't able to stuff him like they thought. Twice-elected, handily. Significant forward motion on health care reform. A more credible voice in the world community. A rejection of stupidity and belligerence as America's main public attributes. That great wave of "buyer's remorse" never materialized except inside their own minds.
And part of his legacy may also be the implosion of the Republican Party. They were so horrendous in their monolithic opposition, so juvenile in their sly racial dog-whistling. So impotent and destructive in their extortionate rage. They are now flailing about in a small, smelly box of their own construction.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)they're broken... they cannot accept a president that is not white. I saw a comment recently on a Forbes.com article. The Contributor, Rick Ungar, had information on who was the lowest spender as our President. Pres. Obama was one of the lowest, if not THE lowest, But still the attacks took off in the comment section.
And the one comment that stuck with me was from a right winger who said "the Obama family are living like they won the lottery." I've heard this one before. It's a racist comment... just as the "worst President in history" comment. They may not even realize it, but they see him as less worthy, his family as opportunists that do not deserve vacations, or nice clothes, while his republican predecessors spent WAY more time on vacation, and on frills.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)Then the mantle will be passed to whatever Democrat is in the White House.
It'll be "I thought Obama was bad, but <current president> is ten times worse"
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)if a re-thug wins they will say, " he inherited Obama's mess"
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)"Those were Bush's policies", they'll say "who?"
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I don't necessarily recommend this practice, but every now and again I go through the comments sections of Tea Party-related sites. Afterwards, I shower with bleach and turpentine.
These whack-jobs think that Obama should be impeached and tried for treason because of the Affordable Care Act. Now just ponder that one for a minute. A law passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the President, and upheld by the Supreme Court should be fodder for not only impeachment (high crime and misdemeanors) but a charge of treason (giving aid and comfort to our enemies in wartime).
All that from a health insurance program?
Life is too short. Don't waste your time trying to arguing with people because they are, quite honestly, a pack of arm-waving lunatics. These people are your dumb-ass uncle who used to be confined to saying stunningly inappropriate things at the dinner table around the holidays. Now thanks to the internet and talk radio, they have their own political party -- The Party Formerly Known As Republican.
They're not going to go away. They're never going to go away.
Talk to your sensible family and friends. And when election time comes around -- and I mean EVERY election time -- make sure that both you and they get out to vote. We're a majority, but when we don't show up, these people win. And they can do real damage when they do.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)that equates to the same thing for way too many Repigs.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,412 posts)Say what? Uh, Fuck News told me so. Rush Slimebaugh told me so.
Or, criteria, what the hell is that? You some ivy tower elitist, or somethin'?
Zambero
(8,978 posts)It was a done deal. Right there in the Bible as prophesized. He was the man. UNTIL of course the day that Barrack Obama was elected President, when William J. was compelled to relinquish the title to the latest Democrat to occupy the White House. At least we know these nuts possess some degree of flexibility, always living for the moment.
Turbineguy
(37,392 posts)Backed by Confederate and Monopoly Money.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)no matter on which side of the political spectrum you fall. It seems that the direction of major policy....the police state, the surveillance state, economic policy, privatization...does not change much anymore no matter which party is in power.
But it is in the interest of the corporate propaganda to rile up each side with the language of extremes....teach Republicans to rant that Democrats are the WORST PEOPLE ON EARTH, and vice versa, so that we will vilify the other side......but more importantly, defend our side. In other words, so that we will defend the very same malignant policies under Obama that we decried but Republicans defended under Bush. And so that no matter which party takes the reins and escalates the corporate predatory agenda next, its "team" can be counted upon to defend it, too.
This is how the propaganda machine tries to ensure that half of voters will always rally around and enable the continuation of predatory corporate/police state policies, no matter which party is in power expanding them.
This is a propaganda tactic. Instead of taking the bait to engage in the Two Minutes Hate and circle the wagons around disastrous policy, we should focus on the policy agenda itself and unite as the 99 percent to demand a stop to the corporate policies that are destroying America.
okaawhatever
(9,478 posts)and haven't increased the police state or surveillance state. Ditto economic policy. Privatization...that's laughable. Obama's economic policy is the same as Bush's? Really, now.
It seems the only propaganda is yours. You're the one trying to create a false reality where Bush and Obama are one in the same.
LyndaG
(683 posts)Their opinions are usually based on things they've read on The Blaze or heard on Hate Radio. Warped.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)Probably earlier. Possibly much earlier.