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riqster

(13,986 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:03 AM Feb 2014

The difference between Uganda and Arizona? Not much.

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/the-difference-between-uganda-and-arizona-not-much/

" Both states have governments that hate gay people (and anyone remotely resembling gay folk). Uganda’s legislature passed a bill making gay anything a crime, and their prexy signed it into law. Arizona also passed a law legalizing anti-gay hatred, albeit not quite as crazy as Uganda’s.

And lest you think there is no connection between a small country in East Africa and American Teavangelicals, think again. Right-Wing “conservative” “Republican” “Christians” helped get both bills passed. The difference is only of degree: in Africa, you can be killed or imprisoned. Arizona isn’t there yet, but give them time.

Kansas is pushing similar laws, as are other state and local governments, claiming that their “religious freedom” includes the right to oppress and kill anyone their snake-handling (or snake-oil selling) preacher tells them to hate. They forget that the Constitution gave the rest of us religious freedom, too, and most of us don’t really give a single owl pellet who loves whom nor how they love them, so long as we are left alone to likewise conduct our love lives without government interference.

The American West and the African East: havens of hatred. Please, everybody, how about passing some nice “mind your own damned business” laws for a change?"


This is why we have a secular democracy.

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ck4829

(35,096 posts)
1. I saw something on a forum, a person who said he was a Ugandan said "places in the US are doing it..
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:05 AM
Feb 2014

So why can't we?"

ck4829

(35,096 posts)
4. It wasn't, I have to try to look it up at some point. There were opinions that the law wasn't right
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:09 AM
Feb 2014

Might have been Raw Story, sometimes some very right wing comments do appear.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
5. I saw something similar a while back.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:19 AM
Feb 2014

Couldn't easily locate source info, so I left it out of the blog.

I fully expect Teavangelicals to cite Uganda as an example henceforth.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
8. Exaggeration doesn't help anyone
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:42 AM
Feb 2014

in either place.
As bad as Arizona is, gays are not imprisoned. Many people in Arizona even their Senator object and they don't face prison for doing it.
On top of that, we do have the constitution. If Brewer is dumb enough to not veto this, it will be declared unconstitutional.


"Arizona isn't there yet, but give them time".
No. Arizona will never be there. Uganda is a hell hole and to compare it with any state in the US is ridiculous hyperbole.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. as ugly as what is going on in Arizona's legislature is, notsomuch.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:44 AM
Feb 2014

I expect Brewer to veto that bill.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. it's not really the same at all. Nor is it just 'teavangelicals'
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:03 PM
Feb 2014

at work, Uganda is over 40% Catholic, Francis has not opposed this law and his Bishops there strongly support it. Uganda has another 40% who are Anglican, and their Bishops support it loudly.
It is a funky form of denial going on when the majority of a nation passing hate laws is absolved of all culpability while their leadership is praised as progressive.

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