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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:30 AM Feb 2014

Debunking RW fantasies about the death of Obamacare

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That seems to be happening right now, in two very different areas. In one area, we have the refusal of people to sign up for Obamacare in anything like the numbers that were predicted, or needed to make it work. Writing in the Washington Post back in November, Jennifer Rubin observed:

It is a coin flip, at best, for the president as to whether his signature achievement, his only achievement, will fail. It will be repealed in essence by a popular referendum: The mass refusal of people to go along with Obama's top-down, compulsory system that was set to transform a sixth of the economy. That possibility should traumatize and probably is traumatizing the White House. ... The political implications of this are almost too enormous to calculate.

"Now, as February draws near, things don't look much better. Far fewer than half the number needed by March 31 have signed up. And, as it turns out, most of the people signing up for Obamacare aren't the uninsured for whom it was supposedly enacted, but people who were previously insured (many of whom lost their previous insurance because of Obamacare's new requirements). "At most," writes Bloomberg's Megan McArdle, "they've signed up 15% of the uninsured that they were expecting to enroll. ... Where are the uninsured? Did hardly any of them want coverage beginning Jan. 1?" It looks that way."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/01/26/obamacare-numbers-health-exchanges-insurance-obama-column/4913341/

That's Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit.com in an article titled: "How Americans can kill Obamacare..."

At &quot f)ar fewer than half the number needed by March 31 have signed up," he links to an article at The Hill, which states:

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HHS confirmed to The Hill that about 800,000 people have enrolled so far in January, on top of the 2.2 million who selected plans from October through December.

HHS confirmed to The Hill that about 800,000 people have enrolled so far in January, on top of the 2.2 million who selected plans from October through December.

That’s encouraging news for the Obama administration, as some experts had predicted a fall-off in enrollments for January. A flood of last-minute consumers is expected for March, when open enrollment ends for 2014, and the penalty associated with the individual mandate kicks in.

If March enrollments reach a new high, and there isn’t a significant fall-off in February, the administration might even approach the Congressional Budget Office estimate of having 7 million enrollees for 2014.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/196341-obamacare-enrollments-hit-3-million

In fact, January enrollments surpassed projections.

Obamacare Enrollments Continue Piling Up In January, Now 3.3 Million

Obamacare had its second-best enrollment month in January, adding more than 1 million people to its rolls, a slight but expected drop from December and much improved from the law's rough opening months.

The 1.1 million enrollments as of Feb. 1 bring the law's total to 3.3 million -- still behind its projected totals ahead of the Oct. 1 launch, which had anticipated that many sign-ups by the end of December. But after the law signed up a fraction of its expected enrollees in October and November -- before HealthCare.gov was declared fixed -- it's continued positive news for the law...According to the Washington Post's Sarah Kliff, January was the first individual month that Obamacare beat its pre-launch projected enrollment.

"These encouraging trends show that more Americans are enrolling every day, and finding quality, affordable coverage in the marketplace,” Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in a statement.



Enrollment among young people ticked up slightly in January; 27 percent of enrollees were ages 18 to 34, compared to the 24 percent in October through December. About 25 percent of its sign-ups are now in that core demographic, again well behind the initial projections, but at a level that experts say should allow for the law's actuarial survival.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/obamacare-enrollment-january

Uninsurance Rate Falls To Five-Year Low As 3.3 Million Enroll In Obamacare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024555270

Morning Plum: Hype versus reality in the war of Obamacare anecdotes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024555551



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Debunking RW fantasies about the death of Obamacare (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2014 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #1
I wonder how this translate to much need voters in the fall warrior1 Feb 2014 #2
Democrats ProSense Feb 2014 #5
It's not going away shenmue Feb 2014 #3
Yes, and the OP doesn't include ProSense Feb 2014 #7
Kick for actual facts mcar Feb 2014 #4
Hey, ProSense Feb 2014 #6
And the distortions keep getting traction mcar Feb 2014 #9
Yup, RW distortions gain traction everywhere these days. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #10
This is the guy ProSense Feb 2014 #11
Kick! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #8

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
2. I wonder how this translate to much need voters in the fall
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:52 AM
Feb 2014

Will these people who just got ACA just go back to sleep or are our party going to push this idea of sustainable depends on who's in office.

ACA needs to be strengthen and protected.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Democrats
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:07 PM
Feb 2014

"I wonder how this translate to much need voters in the fall"

..are trying to get the Medicaid expansion on the ballot in some states: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024555514

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Hey,
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:13 PM
Feb 2014

"Instead of right wing talking points."

...it's the RW. They live for distortions. They've tried to capitalize on distorting perception every step of the way. The most recent was that young people weren't going to sign up, but that has been debunked.

Still, only the RW can convince supposedly sensible people that the uninsured are not signing up. I guess that means the people signing up, including the millions of Medicaid enrollees, had insurance? LOL!

mcar

(42,439 posts)
9. And the distortions keep getting traction
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:46 PM
Feb 2014

in the media and all over the place. It is truly amazing, and frightening, how much control the RW has over our media and how it seeps into everything.

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