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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe minority report: Chicago's new police computer predicts crimes, but is it racist?
When the Chicago Police Department sent one of its commanders to Robert McDaniels home last summer, the 22-year-old high school dropout was surprised. Though he lived in a neighborhood well-known for bloodshed on its streets, he hadnt committed a crime or interacted with a police officer recently. And he didnt have a violent criminal record, nor any gun violations. In August, he incredulously told the Chicago Tribune, "I haven't done nothing that the next kid growing up hadn't done. Yet, there stood the female police commander at his front door with a stern message: if you commit any crimes, there will be major consequences. Were watching you.
What McDaniel didnt know was that he had been placed on the citys heat list an index of the roughly 400 people in the city of Chicago supposedly most likely to be involved in violent crime. Inspired by a Yale sociologists studies and compiled using an algorithm created by an engineer at the Illinois Institute of Technology, the heat list is just one example of the experiments the CPD is conducting as it attempts to push policing into the 21st century.
Predictive analytical systems have been tested by police departments all over the country for years now, but theres perhaps no urban police force thats further along or better funded than the CPD in its quest to predict crime before it happens. As Commander Jonathan Lewin, whos in charge of information technology for the CPD, told The Verge: This [program] will become a national best practice. This will inform police departments around the country and around the world on how best to utilize predictive policing to solve problems. This is about saving lives.
But the jurys still out about whether Chicagos heat list and its other predictive policing experiments are worth the invasions of privacy they might cause and the unfair profiling they could blatantly encourage. As Hanni Fakhoury, a staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told The Verge: My fear is that these programs are creating an environment where police can show up at anyones door at any time for any reason.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/19/5419854/the-minority-report-this-computer-predicts-crime-but-is-it-racist
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JJChambers
(1,115 posts)Is race one of the variables that the algorithm considers? Is that data present?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)That's alright, I understand.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)I'm going to assume you don't have an answer to a simple, pertinent question. If race is considered by the system, which it should NOT be, then the predictions may be racist. But if race is not part of the data used to predict crime, I don't see how it could be considered racist.
I didn't realize that asking questions was such a sensitive issue.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I posted a story about real life pre-crime, the presumption of guilt by the state and invasion of privacy, and all you're focusing on is the racial component, which in my opinion is the minor part of it.
Everything that I posted came directly out of the source material, without any input from myself, with the exception of the pre-crime logo and caption. I'm not the person that you should be asking whether or not it's racial, that's something that you should direct towards the article's author
Or perhaps the subjects being interviewed.
But no, you've decided to shift the focus, right off the bat , towards the ONLY aspect of the story that YOU'RE singularly concerned about, which is race. You've been doing this quite a bit, even in other threads.
Well, that's your bag, baby. Run with it. You won't find me obstructing you.
I thought race WAS your main point, as it was featured in the title of the OP. My response seemed like a good question to answer in order to answer the question in the title (is it racist?).
I disagree that this system presumes guilt or innocence; it doesn't presuppose anyone is guilty of anything. My understanding is that the system uses data to identify at-risk individuals and then dispatches officers to talk with those individuals. I would rather see a short, consensual visit from police before a murder than a SWAT raid after a murder.
Maybe the system won't work. Maybe it will be a failure. But maybe it won't. Our current system isn't working and I applaud CPDs efforts to at least try something new.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Anyone getting these unsolicited visits should be outraged by this behavior.
It's total bullshit.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)But still, it's a good thread and could provide some thought provoking debate.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Since it was in the title and the program would need it as an input to consider it. A valid question.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)by constantly inventing better and more advanced ways to oppress people...
Of course it's the chicken/egg argument...If police departments weren't overfunded, they couldn't be searching nonstop for ways to spend their cash -- Usually on the latest high-tech fad....
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I would be quite interested in finding out about the entire contracting process for this debacle.
Someone got paid and someone else in the city government must have had a reason for doing this.
Excellent point.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Have they run a randomize controlled test?