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The GOPs Warning Signal?
by Taegan Goddard at the Political Wire
http://politicalwire.com/2015/03/31/the-gops-warning-signal/
"SNIP...............
Jill Lawrence "If theres one takeaway from Indiana Gov. Mike Pences religious freedom restoration debacle, its that Republicans ignore todays cultural environment at their peril. Conservatives can continue to live in a bubble if they want to, but they should expect blowback, because outside that bubble is a far different reality.
Maybe Pence simply decided to cross his fingers and hope for the best. Or maybe, cosseted in the Christian right echo chamber, he was oblivious to how all of this would be received in the wider world. Either way, his action, and its reflection on his party, is about as forward-looking as the revived Republican hostility to immigration reform. Forget about the future, it doesnt even acknowledge the world as it exists today.
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misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Damn.
Wounded Bear
(58,743 posts)because they have minions on radio and TV lying to them and supporting their myopic, medieval ideas. And it appears that hundreds of politicians are on the highway to hell with them.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)And they will legislate the American citizens who disbelieve.
We need this 2016 Presidency more than ever.
Fuck this!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Hate radio 24/7 and dominion theology every Sunday from their heretic preacher at the local mega church.
Propaganda, fear and tribalism work, racial hate works, fear of..gasp...gay people works, spending millions buying up politicians and supreme court justices work, and they work well unfortunately.
They stay wrapped it their hate cocoons and think the whole world agrees with them!
It did back in the middle ages where the koch bros are trying like hell to force this world back to.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)When you are trained to ignore evidence and interpret the world through an outcome-based perspective, it becomes easy to ignore inconvenient facts. In today's media environment, you never have to be exposed to views that disagree from your own, if you don't wish to.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)He got a big clue when Arizona tried this and the push back that even Jan Brewer vetoed and she was not running again and still got enough pushback to not take the bad law. Pence had full warning not to do this and did it anyway. Arkansas is even worse because they saw it played out in real time and still passed it. No ignorance or fingers crossed for these Governors.
Kber
(5,043 posts)Rove to Romney, they really thought they were going to win.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)What we are seeing are many of hate filled themes of the late thirties thru the fifties. These themes were as a rule spouted by the Fire and Brimstone tent revivalists. Seems no one has learned from the past.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Fire & brimstone tent revivals.
Scary trip backwards with them in power.
Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)And the hold of fundamentalists over the flyover states will probably only intensify as time goes on as the young and educated leave in search of better career prospects.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,304 posts)Like they always do.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)that they can suppress and rig the voting process in 2016 to win with their base only.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)In their own bubble with their own "unskewed" polls, absolutely sure that they're winning.
Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)They went too far again and the backlash against them will be extreme. Ultimately, they will have to settle for the societal opposite of what they tried to shove down our throats. They actually cause the very thing they are the most scared of.
world wide wally
(21,757 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)These religious fanatic dominunists are the same as ISIS, al quida and the Taliban.
They just haven't got to the killing of those who disagree with them part...yet.
world wide wally
(21,757 posts)applegrove
(118,845 posts)diabetes. That lets people live longer. The GOP was against that...and their holy rollers were right with them. So too were they with the casino banksters who crashed the economy...which causes suicide to go up. Guns too. GOP lies, folks die.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)kairos12
(12,882 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Yet alone the century we live in, to say nothing about the Millenium. The GOP is hostile to anything more modern than a Millenium ago.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but I fear it won't be. Come election time republicans will denounce this bill, even though they will secretly endorse it, and their voters will either be smart enough to know better and not care, or will be gullible and accept them at their word.
PatrickforO
(14,595 posts)Think about it. A seemingly dumb Republican does something seemingly stupid, but in the background we have the constant pressure from Republicans in the US House and Senate snip, snip, snipping money away from programs that help Americans, while at the same time increasing the domestic spying budget as well as the already obscenely bloated war budget. And, of course, they are also trying to cut away policies that protect the environment, and they continue to spew about how America has the highest corporate tax rate in the world while at the same time leaving loopholes in the law that have allowed multinational companies to 'hide' over $3 trillion of untaxed profit offshore.
So, yeah we definitely have to fight against egregious fundamentalist incursions into our most basic rights, but we CAN'T forget the big picture, because if we can get a majority and focus on policies that promote economic, social and environmental justice, most of the religious right idiocy will crawl back under the rocks where it lived in more sane times.
Gothmog
(145,667 posts)Those lies did not work
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,446 posts)I think that he honestly thought that this would either go unnoticed (hard to imagine given that opposition picked up pretty heavily as it passed out of the Legislature) or people would just shrug their shoulders and move on. After all, Democrats have been neutered and Republicans have such a commanding majority that Democrats could show up or stay home and it wouldn't change anything that happens in the Legislature. Plus, I bet that he thought that this would be a quick and easy ticket to woo Republican primary voters (he has been rumored to have Presidential ambitions). I'm pleasantly surprised at how swift and strong the backlash has been against this law, however, it won't mean much in the long term unless Democrats and progressives capitalize on this backfire next year when Pence and all House members in the Legislature are up for re-election. Pence barely won in 2012. Hopefully, this will help improve our chances of making him a one-term Governor.
Kber
(5,043 posts)Outside your state that might care what you do and even be in a position to influence it.
But it's not a good trait in someone who ever aspires to nation wide office. America is actually pretty diverse.
Cha
(297,818 posts)Excellent point.. mahalo apple!
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)and it's still working for them.
When the rubes finally figure out that they've been had the result will not be pretty.
randome
(34,845 posts)I do think a tipping point has been reached.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]
Thanks for sharing
glinda
(14,807 posts)have it go to Court to determine "what a religion" (primarily just Christian) is. By doing that they will be hoping to garnish and solidify people and guilt them into supporting them and their buds. I can hear the Constitution rip as I type this.
The argument is obtuse. It is insane. It is based upon one person's manufacturing of what they think. NOT necessarily what their "Religion" actually practices. Not even really what the Bible may say.
The attempt to make these Laws are based upon hate, guilt, manipulation and total takeover.
I mean under this argument a person can say anything.
applegrove
(118,845 posts)choice. And when the reporters go after them on that...they obfuscate. They want this point made into law. And it is bullshit. It reminds me of a psychopath trying to argue in a non logical way because the debate must serve the psychopath and his ends, not logic or truth. I think religion is about serving god, not yourself.