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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:12 PM Mar 2015

Let's Face It Folks. Indiana GOP Will NOT Back Down. No Matter How Much Protest Or Boycott.

Instead they are blaming the protesters and boycotters claiming THEY and their RELIGIOUS beliefs are the victim. Pence himself said the law is NOT broken. How can you fix something you believe is completely correct? How can you correct what is NOT broken in your view?

They believe that SCOTUS will be on their side. They have money backing and political backing and vote rigging to carry RFRA to just about every state. And they have thousands of RW churches on their side.

I hope I am wrong, all they will do is order the law in Indiana to look the other way when LGBT are screwed or even killed. They are that evil. They are that evil.

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Let's Face It Folks. Indiana GOP Will NOT Back Down. No Matter How Much Protest Or Boycott. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 OP
From the looks of the negative corporate responses they're getting, dgibby Mar 2015 #1
Fine, stew in your own juices, I say. Lifelong Protester Mar 2015 #2
dems tv ad: today its the gays will it be your turn tomorrow? msongs Mar 2015 #3
Please don't narrow it as an LGBT issue, it's a human rights issue. Avalux Mar 2015 #4
Thank you. Look what they are doing to women. I benn they don't like too much pigment either. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2015 #7
Exactly. nt Skidmore Apr 2015 #19
Dems. should be all over this, Repugs would be. Other than Gov. Malloy I've not seen a response appalachiablue Mar 2015 #5
Let's see: Governor Cuomo, Hillary Clinton, O'Malley, spokepeople for the President cali Apr 2015 #18
There have been actions by mayors and governors, Cuomo yesterday and McAuliffe too, you appalachiablue Apr 2015 #30
Pandora's Box has been opened, but it can be closed again, it was before. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #6
I'll bet the KKK wishes they had thought of the religious angle back in the 50's world wide wally Mar 2015 #8
Can you please explain then why Gannett's "Indianapolis Star," a right-leaning media KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #9
Not Easy To Explain Except For Economic Fall Out. TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 #10
It's not a new wedge issue at all, it's been around for 20 years at least!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #17
Anti-gay hysteria used to be their ace in the hole, Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #33
When their taxes are raised enough because of the sharp decrease onecaliberal Apr 2015 #11
and their jobs will be leaving as many business might move out of that state.. movonne Apr 2015 #12
Agree. It's time these people onecaliberal Apr 2015 #13
+1 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #15
Thanks for pointing this out. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #32
Fascism. JEB Apr 2015 #14
We need to mobilize 50,000 people to protest that law outside of the games this weekend!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #16
Nothing motivates these people... sendero Apr 2015 #20
Let's just throw up our hands and quit fighting Skidmore Apr 2015 #21
Let's Face It Folks. Indiana GOP Will NOT Back Down. No Matter How Much Protest Or Boycott. doubtingtom Apr 2015 #22
and then they came for the Jews, but I didn't speak out, B Calm Apr 2015 #23
I kind of wish people would be more careful about how they use that Niemoller quote cali Apr 2015 #24
You can quit if you want to. We will win this thing without you and your naysayer can't do attitude. GreatGazoo Apr 2015 #25
Governor Dense had a bad day yesterday Gothmog Apr 2015 #26
It's so hideously divisive. Of course the conservatives love it. Divide and conquer. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #27
Good. Makes it much easier for people to throw them out on their asses LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #28
But...but...several corporations are on our side! Orsino Apr 2015 #29
and so are numerous dem politicians. cali Apr 2015 #31
Dunno zipplewrath Apr 2015 #34

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
1. From the looks of the negative corporate responses they're getting,
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:23 PM
Mar 2015

they'll either have to back down or close down. Ball is in their court.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
2. Fine, stew in your own juices, I say.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:26 PM
Mar 2015

Just the same as here in WI, unfortunately. And I know "innocents" will be hurt. Too bad.

msongs

(67,462 posts)
3. dems tv ad: today its the gays will it be your turn tomorrow?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:27 PM
Mar 2015

aim it at one demographic or another, adapted to meet requirements (like in spanish for example)

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. Please don't narrow it as an LGBT issue, it's a human rights issue.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:28 PM
Mar 2015

They will be able to discriminate against ANYONE they choose with the law at their back. That's the broader reach, with a lot of other states ready to follow Indiana's lead.

WE cannot back down.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. Let's see: Governor Cuomo, Hillary Clinton, O'Malley, spokepeople for the President
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:28 AM
Apr 2015

The Mayors of several large cities- and plenty more.

appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
30. There have been actions by mayors and governors, Cuomo yesterday and McAuliffe too, you
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:34 AM
Apr 2015

are correct. I was very impressed with CT Gov. Malloy's outspoken objections during cable interviews. That's what I was thinking of but didn't make clear as I should have in the comment I posted.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
9. Can you please explain then why Gannett's "Indianapolis Star," a right-leaning media
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:49 PM
Mar 2015

organ, has thrown Gov. Dense under the bus?

What we are witnessing is an internecine war on the right, as the big-money players (in Marxist terms, the 'bourgeoisie') break ranks with the Tea Party (in Marxist terms, the 'lumpenproletariat'). Gov. Dense has picked the wrong side, as he is discovering to his discomfiture.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
10. Not Easy To Explain Except For Economic Fall Out.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:58 PM
Mar 2015

Certainly the "Star's" response is surprising. The gay issue is a new wedge issue for the GOP actually. It riles their base and gets them out to vote.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
17. It's not a new wedge issue at all, it's been around for 20 years at least!!
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:33 AM
Apr 2015

God, guns, and gays.

Google that phrase and you'll see it was used many years ago to describe the wedge issues the GOP uses to manipulate the public.

"Obama is coming after your Bible!"
"Obama is coming after your guns!"
"Obama is spreading the gay agenda!"

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
33. Anti-gay hysteria used to be their ace in the hole,
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:41 AM
Apr 2015

but now it is starting to backfire on them. Now we see they are having a hard time navigating between their illiterate religious nutcase base and their Big Money corporate masters.

onecaliberal

(32,934 posts)
11. When their taxes are raised enough because of the sharp decrease
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:15 AM
Apr 2015

In revenue they'll care. It's all the bigots think about besides hate.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
16. We need to mobilize 50,000 people to protest that law outside of the games this weekend!!
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:28 AM
Apr 2015

We don't care if the Indiana GOP backs down or not.
We don't care what they believe about that law's viability.
The law is blatantly unconstitutional.

This time, we're going to shove it down THEIR throats for a change!!!!!!

sendero

(28,552 posts)
20. Nothing motivates these people...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:36 AM
Apr 2015

.... like money. We might be surprised what a successful boycott could do.

doubtingtom

(22 posts)
22. Let's Face It Folks. Indiana GOP Will NOT Back Down. No Matter How Much Protest Or Boycott.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:53 AM
Apr 2015

It's sad really, the Conservaturds are awesome at putting US on the defensive on a regular basis. Pence blamed the media & twitter & said they had to fix a law, if it's the media & twitter's fault, why do you need to fix it. It really peeves me off on how they get away with it on a constant basis.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. I kind of wish people would be more careful about how they use that Niemoller quote
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 06:59 AM
Apr 2015

First of all, a shitload of people are speaking out. Secondly, the peril in speaking out for the Jews, even fairly early, was pronounced, and thirdly, comparing this to what happened to the Jews in Germany, far prior to the death camps- in other words the Nuremberg Laws- was quite different to legal measures such as religious freedom laws. Does anyone seriously think we're moving toward imprisonment and mass execution of GLBT folks? Thankfully, as this nasty episode, and the one in Arkansas, illustrate, it's getting harder to get away with this kind of discrimination- which was common until recently. Marriage equality is the law of the land in the majority of states.

None of that means that this isn't a vital issue. It is.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
25. You can quit if you want to. We will win this thing without you and your naysayer can't do attitude.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:05 AM
Apr 2015

Your plan (?):

Step 1 - Surrender


No thank you.

Gothmog

(145,687 posts)
26. Governor Dense had a bad day yesterday
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:42 AM
Apr 2015

There is still a fight between the sane faction of the GOP and nut case faction. Hopefully the sane faction will prevail

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
34. Dunno
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

I think you ultimately saw some effects of boycotts and protests over the confederate flag issue in many states. Yes, it took years, but the repetitive nature of the complaint on an economic scale definitely saw states choosing to take some action.

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