She can't keep it and she knows that. She is very honest and ethical.

Two third parties did.

.....why DFA and MoveOn change their approach now?

What about that sounds equivocal?

...but MOVE ON and DFA ignored her when she said it in January, December, October.....why should they ignore her now?

What else does she have to do?

I wonder if the websites have any fine print saying where the money goes if she does not run. If so, I hope it goes to her next Senate campaign.

Why not the convention?

And clearly it doesn't apply to you.

I've seen it happen before, when someone said they weren't going to run, and then later wound up running.

I needs the money!!

will benefit. And people donating will be screwed.

DFA and Moveon can ONLY give Warren $5,000 each. The intent of the money was to fund their own efforts to convince her. They're under no legal obligation to continue to do so, and the leftover money is part of their general fund.

Just as the funds for RFH have been been intended to be given to Hillary. They are used to fund the draft organization's operations.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contriblimits.shtml

(see "PAC (multicandidate) may give...&quot

The job posting is for someone to help solicit up to $5,000 per individual to the PAC. The PAC in turn could donate up to $5,000 directly to a candidate (both primary and general, so $10,000 total). Brooklynite is correct.

I don't think the fact that she has said she is not running is near enough for a charge like that.

BTW, they are by far not the only ones collecting to persuade Warren to run.

I've seen this quite a bit before on DU. Oh goddamn those progressives!

Cosmic, atomic. Since there is no egg on my face emoticon, I'll go with these:

which wouldn't include any dlcer, new democrat or thirdway type dem. Thanks for your concern.

Hopefully they're not like Adam Green and his crew.

Sid

You seem to have a woody hate-on for both of the organizations. Do you happen to remember who Moveon backed in 2008?

First of all, MoveOn.org & DFA, along with "Run Warren Run" & WFP, have not been told by Warren to shut it down.

Secondly, MoveOn.org has already consulted with attorneys on contributing to a different(progressive) candidate should Warren ultimately not run. I imagine there will be a vote among members.

We're all still hoping she'll change her mind. That hasn't changed.

Its bizarre that some Democrats here have animosity towards fantastic (truly) Democratic organizations.




We REALLY want her to change her mind.

Saying they want a primary, but want to shut down any recruitment of candidates who's name isn't Clinton.

And the vote happened after Warren one the straw poll. I guess some people had preferred it if the leaders of the organizations said, "look, I know you guys want us to do this but we're not going to, because the people at the top make the decisions and the people at the bottom follow."

Warren hasn't wanted to run all along. 'Draft' acknowledged this all along, and still hopes to change her mind. When will they stop trying to get her to run after all? When the filing deadline has passed.

...yes, technically a candidate could wait until the filing deadline, but realistically, you need to be in the field months before to organize the financial and political team you'll need to actually campaign.

That would be wrong.

Don't we believe that in a campaign without a Hillary Clinton, or in which a real groundswell of grassroots or Big Money support for Warren appeared, that she might scrape together some interest?

Would you be offended if they *had* managed to change her mind along the way? Would you be saying that her campaign is forever tainted because the candidate initially expressed reluctance?

This is not the first campaign to fold, or the first to fold before it began. There's no need for dark hints until we see something funny happen with the Draft Warren money.

Relax. Secretary Clinton will be nominated and elected.

it was Dean for America.

If, ultimately, Warren doesn't enter the race, the money will probably be used for what it's always used for: supporting local candidates who actually represent those who wish to see them elected. It's been successful so far, and they will continue to receive my support over the DNC until the DNC starts to remember who it is the party is supposed to be representing. It's really quite simple, straightforward without a shred of "wistfulness."

Please tell the DNC the next time you donate to them that the emails that come *this close* to sounding like a threat/collections letter are pretty much not the way to go...

Elizabeth Warren for Senate campaign organization. I get about one a day, asking for donations. She's still a Senator and still has an organization.

I have no idea what happens with the money collected by the Draft Elizabeth Warren group. I don't donate to any campaign until a campaign actually exists. There is no Elizabeth Warren for President campaign, and I'm not in Massachusetts, so I haven't sent any contributions at all to either one.