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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:31 PM Apr 2015

Fukushima MELTDOWN to cause '10,000 Chernobyls' in South Atlantic

Last edited Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Brits in secret evac cover-up

Molten nuclear powerplant cores from Fukushima – having burned their way down through the planetary crust and plunged into the Earth's centre – are set to emerge again on the other side of the planet and devastate the Falkland Islands, scientists believe.
"It's usually called the China Syndrome," explains Dr Petar Glick of the Federation of Concerned Scientists. "The idea is that if a US-based reactor core melted down it would become so hot that nothing could resist it, and it would burn its way down through the planet until it reached China.

"But in the case of Fukushima, the other side of the planet is actually the Falkland Islands."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/01/falklands_syndrome_fukushima_meltdown_to_cause_10000_chernobyls_in_south_atlantic/

Article explains the process by which this could happen.

Edited to add: Happy April 1st, everyone, esp. those who joined the thread to play.
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Fukushima MELTDOWN to cause '10,000 Chernobyls' in South Atlantic (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 OP
Once it gets to the core it will stay there. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #1
the article details why that does not apply in this case. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #3
Yup, and besides that, the material would be turned to liquid from the heat and then dispersed shraby Apr 2015 #4
Article explains why it would not work that way: dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #6
gravity is a weak force central scrutinizer Apr 2015 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #2
My father told me over and over again that was going to make my way to China.. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #5
Ha, I made it a whopping eight feet before I struck water Brother Buzz Apr 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Apr 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author NuclearDem Apr 2015 #9
I self-deleted, and am waiting to hear what octafish has to say MineralMan Apr 2015 #10
This is pretty serious. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #12
Yeah. I wouldn't poo-poo it. MineralMan Apr 2015 #13
About what? Your Air Force sharpshooter medal? Octafish Apr 2015 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author former9thward Apr 2015 #11
No. It won't. phantom power Apr 2015 #14
Just saying "no" is not a meaningful reply. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #18
There are other parts of the article that give some key information about it too... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #20
Page 2 is the clincher pinboy3niner Apr 2015 #21
See...YOU get it! dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #26
Indeed. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #29
Holy crap, it's dumb science day at DU... SidDithers Apr 2015 #15
Nadine admitted she was wrong treestar Apr 2015 #16
I was trying to figure out the anagram for Petar Glick... SidDithers Apr 2015 #24
No wonder she no longer posts here. longship Apr 2015 #39
Joni Mitchell has Morgellons? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #19
Grammar-school level punctuation can be as difficult as science, I imagine. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #22
Well, even tho I do not drink, I really cannot object to those who do dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #25
Well there you go. Learned something today... SidDithers Apr 2015 #31
You shd sit in front of Wonder Woman's jet at the Smithsonian and think about what you did, mister! pinboy3niner Apr 2015 #37
The really funny part... FBaggins Apr 2015 #40
APRIL FOOLS!!1 Desert805 Apr 2015 #17
I wonder if he was named after someone in management at the publication? herding cats Apr 2015 #23
DUers should help fund a rescue mission to save poor Colin! pinboy3niner Apr 2015 #28
What about the penguins and sheep? herding cats Apr 2015 #32
Why not? But then... pinboy3niner Apr 2015 #33
Perfect! herding cats Apr 2015 #34
Thanks for sharing! herding cats Apr 2015 #27
Giveaway HassleCat Apr 2015 #30
This thread should have brazillions of recs! pinboy3niner Apr 2015 #35

shraby

(21,946 posts)
4. Yup, and besides that, the material would be turned to liquid from the heat and then dispersed
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:39 PM
Apr 2015

throughout the molten center of the earth.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Article explains why it would not work that way:
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:56 PM
Apr 2015

"The 'China Syndrome' has always been thought to be just a figure of speech," Glick explains. "Obviously if the fuel melts right down through the Earth's crust it would then either break up, or if not, it would presumably sink to the very centre of the planet. One would imagine, naturally, that gravity would keep it there.

"But that turns out not to be the case."

The scientific computer modelling developed in past weeks shows that in fact the molten reactor-fuel blobs are so incredibly hot that even the liquid interior of the planet is cold compared with them. Thus, the so-called "Leidenfrost effect" comes into play, the same phenomenon which makes a drop of water skitter about on a hot skillet or permits a person to put their bare hand into liquid nitrogen unscathed.

The cores are enveloped in a layer of metallic plasma vapour, causing them to slip almost completely frictionlessly through the liquid planetary interior.
As the super-heavy, molten uranium blobs from Fukushima fell thousands of miles without resistance towards the centre of the Earth, they accelerated to enormous velocities."

central scrutinizer

(11,665 posts)
36. gravity is a weak force
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:36 PM
Apr 2015

The entire earth's gravitational field is pulling at a pin lying on the floor. A very small, weak magnet could pick it up.

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NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. My father told me over and over again that was going to make my way to China..
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:39 PM
Apr 2015

while digging in the back yard as a kid. I live in Florida so once I got to three or four feet I hit water and the journey ended.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
8. Ha, I made it a whopping eight feet before I struck water
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:08 PM
Apr 2015

Then my father made me fill in in. What's amazing, I discovered after I filled in my magnificent hole, I had dirt left over.

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MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
10. I self-deleted, and am waiting to hear what octafish has to say
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:13 PM
Apr 2015

about this. There just might be something to it. My somewhat skeptical reply was written without sufficient thought, perhaps.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
13. Yeah. I wouldn't poo-poo it.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:15 PM
Apr 2015

I'll tell you, though: I'm changing my vacation plans for sure. Uranium and plutonium have some strange properties, I understand. Even scientists don't understand everything, you know. I just hope the starfish don't start dying in the Atlantic, too.

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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. Just saying "no" is not a meaningful reply.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:44 PM
Apr 2015

The article has 2 pages of supportive info. which offers opportunity for intelligent counter arguments.
How can one argue about "Leidenfrost effect" or the speed of the molten cores due to the metallic plasma vapour?

I mean, come on, now, let's raise the discourse level here.
Did you even read the article.
Page 2 esp. contains key information as to the meaning of the evidence.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
15. Holy crap, it's dumb science day at DU...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:40 PM
Apr 2015

first, it's Joni Mitchell's Morgellons, now it gravity-defying blobs of molten nuclear core.


Oh. April Fool's.

My bad.

Sid

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
24. I was trying to figure out the anagram for Petar Glick...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:57 PM
Apr 2015

I got April and then etgck and couldn't make another word

Sid

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. Grammar-school level punctuation can be as difficult as science, I imagine.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:54 PM
Apr 2015

"Joni Mitchell's Morgellons, now it gravity-defying blobs of molten nuclear core..."

And then, if that's not bad enough, onto the half-witted and inaccurate punctuation when writing one of the simplest names of celebratory days. Indeed, grammar-school level punctuation can be as difficult as science, I imagine.

My bad, indeed.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
25. Well, even tho I do not drink, I really cannot object to those who do
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:58 PM
Apr 2015

but, it IS a tad early in the day, I would think.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
31. Well there you go. Learned something today...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:05 PM
Apr 2015

I'd never really paid attention to the name, but had always assumed it was April Fool's Day - the possessive form of April Fool.

Now I've learned it's April Fools Day - a plural form.

I'll just have to live with the shame of having it wrong for these 47 years.

Sid

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
37. You shd sit in front of Wonder Woman's jet at the Smithsonian and think about what you did, mister!
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:49 PM
Apr 2015
Wonder Woman’s Jet Now on Display at The National Air and Space Museum
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026447109

FBaggins

(26,775 posts)
40. The really funny part...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:11 AM
Apr 2015

... is how it isn't so far off from some of the stuff that gets posted on other days of the year.

Still waiting for those cores to hit groundwater and result in hydrovolcanic explosions... 4+ years later. Or how Gundersen continues to claim that unit 3's fuel pool had a nuclear explosion... without damaging the fuel/racks.

Then, of course, there's the poor starfish.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
23. I wonder if he was named after someone in management at the publication?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:55 PM
Apr 2015

Poor Colin, someone should notify PETA about the evil plan to murder him.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
34. Perfect!
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:19 PM
Apr 2015

Now just to figure out who to bill for the mission. The Brits are responsible for the attempted murder of Colin, but the Japanese did create the whole mess...I say we split the bill 50/50 between the two.

I just need to check if Princess Cruise Line allows penguins and sheep onboard.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
30. Giveaway
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:04 PM
Apr 2015

In response to this news, Queen Elizabeth announced Great Britain will give the islands to Argentina. "We had our doubts about taking them back from Argentina. I never trusted people who were that close to sheep. This seals the deal."

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