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CreekDog

(46,192 posts) Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:28 PM Apr 2015

So, imagine for a moment that you're Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

or one of her direct report staff...

and you must communicate with her frequently using email or some equivalent.

How difficult would that be using hillary.clinton@state.gov compared to an internal system that only a limited number of people used?

Otherwise, good luck having those messages seen amongst the 419 letters and the LinkedIn reminders.

Just a thought. Of course, there are different rules than when she was in the position, so this option no longer exists, but it should be food for thought in case you hadn't considered it.

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So, imagine for a moment that you're Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Original Post) CreekDog Apr 2015 OP

Don't you mean "external" rather than "internal"? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #1

Huh? Agschmid Apr 2015 #2

Secretaries of State have people who manage such things. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #3

Okay, but I have to admit that it wasn't easy. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #4

The substantive complaints Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #5

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)

1. Don't you mean "external" rather than "internal"?

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:34 PM

Apr 2015

The State Department's email system is "internal" to the State Department, a private system would be "external" to the State Department.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

2. Huh?

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:03 PM

Apr 2015

The reality of it is... When was the last time you actually typed someone's full email address?

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)

3. Secretaries of State have people who manage such things.

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:17 PM

Apr 2015

And even those people have people who manage other things.

The SOS job doesn't include a whole lot of email management.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)

4. Okay, but I have to admit that it wasn't easy.

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:24 PM

Apr 2015

I spent the first 10 minutes deciding which color of pantsuit I would wear.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)

5. The substantive complaints

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 11:37 PM

Apr 2015

are about the fact that she chose to mingle the two. If it really was an issue of keeping important mail visible, don't you think it would have been even more visible if there was an e-mail address just for mail from that staff so all of this important e-mail didn't get buried amongst the 419 letters and the LinkedIn reminders in her personal e-mail account?

Had she done that, she could have easily separated all correspondence to that e-mail address as government mail, archived it properly, and that would have satisfied the concerns of anyone who has ever lived in the real world and has been unable to access their work e-mail off site - and had to resort to occasionally, or more than occasionally, a private account.

What she did was the e-mail equivalent of recycling by dirty MURF, rather than source separation. Anyone serious about the integrity of recycling rejects dirty MURF as wholly insufficient. The most accurate and complete separation is before the trash (or in this case e-mail) is mingled, nto after the fact.

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