You are right... we must stick together.

and they at grasping at anyway they can to divide and conquer all as best they can.

Divide and conquer.

"We'll argue about one group being more defended or why one is more important than the other."

most assuredly hang separately." Benj. Franklin

be misogynistic, homophobic or racist

while the 1% reaps the benefits of the division and infighting.

It also distraction and creating a war like atmosphere...us against them.
And they have been doing it now for years, and we still have not caught on to the game.

They knew what they were doing when they passed that law...and our reaction was predictable.

and forces people to divide energy among struggles that should be over.

About old time politics & its about their base. Guns God & Glory.
Watch as they try to divide even more with Jeb's Hispanic family & Fiorina dividing the Women's vote. Add the GOP voter suppression & gerrymandering because its about 2016
It is all about dividing the strong DEM voter base.
They know a GOP Presidency 2016 will also give them Supreme Court appointees.
THIS IS their end game.
DEMS cannot lose this election!!

within posts that are defending against people attacking LGBT and women's rights?

Applying stigmatizing colloquialisms to r's promoting the wars against LGBT and women is awfully common herein.

It really seems that 'everyone on board and together' falls short of inclusivity and protection of classes of people being used as icons for disparagement and prejudicial communication.

http://www.everydayhealth.com/depression/are-you-guilty-of-stigmatizing-the-mentally-ill.aspx

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1925070/table/T1/http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1925070/table/T2/

The effect of all the stigmatizing is cultural acceptance and de facto validation of discrimination...look at unemployment among the mentally ill and tell me there is no war against the mentally disordered. Each use of an epithet for mental illness to disparage a rw opponent plants seeds for prejudice...

Acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of civil rights for others... no doubt about that.

http://www2.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=press_room&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=169616

They're envious. Democrats have more fun. We can face the world with a much greater variety of outlooks than they can.

They are afraid. Not of us but of having to face life on equal terms.
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If we just go back to the times when gays women and minorities knew their place and stayed in it, all will be well.

easily cover and quite nicely support the average family of four - the one with Dad at work, Mom at home, and two kids with the dog and the station wagon.

Only not without the unions or good paying jobs.
Father knows best

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026446148

Divide and conquer truly works like a charm.

primarily they don't like the way the world is changing and most of this is them just going down kicking a screaming.

It is because the Democratic party will not stand up for both groups you mentioned and all others not mentioned unanimously.

No, it took Obama years to "have his children correct him" before he could do a mamnsy pamnsey I support lgbt speech.

Our party has traded us, all of us, regardless of party affiliation for money.

There really was a time when our party stood up for all of us, every fucking one of us, regardless of party affiliation.

That day has passed. We sit here today divided over the crumbs.

Indiana was so bent on cutting funding to the "abortion factory" of Planned Parenthood that the cuts lead to rural clinics closing. The clinics did not perform abortion services but the closings meant no aids testing or safe sex counseling so the result is an Aids epidemic. Fiscally responsible and compassion driven decisions were impossible in the political rage climate. It is exhausting to fight on all the fronts at once - but "the stupid" costs lives, money, justice, peace and unity. Our Democratic issues must unite us for all the causes and consequences - we can't fracture into group interests.

And welcome to DU!

I agree completely!

A coin that the rethugs want to drop into the bottom of the ocean.

fight on all fronts.

...is to know the enemy, and the enemy are the Dominionists. That is who the Religious Right are, pure and simple. They are informed by Dominion Theology and Christian Reconstructionism. It is the Dominionists that have taken over the Republican Party and the Dominionists don't give a damn about you because as they see it you, me and everyone else who are not like them, or as they say, "don't have Jay-sus", are worth less than dirt. And it does not matter if you are a liberal Christian, moderate Christian, atheist, Jew, Buddhist, Pagan, whatever, you are their enemy. That is why Democrats are having such a hard time with them. They see their agenda as a war against us. And you know what, it IS a war. They have declared war on non-Dominionist culture and society, and part of the problem we are having with them is that the wider public is unaware of it. The other part of the problem is that there is a lot of talk about Dominionism but no action against them. I find that very frustrating, because I care about my country and the freedoms we have, and I care about the Constitution and the Dominionists are pissing on our Bill of Rights every day and it makes me very angry.

Whether you like it or not, we are involved in a war, and the first thing you need to do is recognize that fact. The second thing you need to do is to prepare yourself for that war. How do we prepare? Know the enemy. There has been a lot written about Dominion Theology, Christian Reconstructionism, and their infiltration of the Republican Party. Some of you may already know a little about it. Time to jump in, immerse yourself in it and do some research and study. KNOW THE ENEMY!

The third most important thing after that, is to....ORGANIZE AN ANTI-DOMINIONIST MOVEMENT!! That means pulling together, collect resources, form alliances, form an organization (A political wing, a legal wing, and a paramilitary wing). It has to be made up of individuals who are unapologetic about going against and getting in the face of Dominionists to prevent them from forming a theocracy in America. What should be the goals of this movement? Stopping the Dominionists. How do we stop them? The agenda should be the removal of Dominionists from government, judiciary and military, for they have infested all three. WE MUST ACT. Talking the subject to death, as I have seen so far in many forums, is not going to help. Once we have pulled together and organized this movement and ACTED, there will no longer be dividing and conquering by the Dominionists, because once we have gotten serious about this it is we who will be doing the dividing and conquering so that we can save the American Republic.

And if no one is willing to really get serious about this and do this besides me, then I have wasted my time and effort and the rest of you might as well just sit down and shut the hell up and wait for the Right Wing Dominionist Jack-Booted Thugs come in after they have established their fascist Christian State and drag us all into their concentration and death camps.

You could put together a quick blog (Blogspot, etc) with numerous links to blatant
examples of Dominionism and its venomous nature, as well as links to fine minds like Chris Hedges
and others who have written at length on this subject.

Heck, I might even start one myself.

No big project yet, just a clearinghouse for accurate info on Dominionism, as well as some personal anecdotes, etc.

2 people could do it faster. Any interest?

...we could work on creating a webpage that could be used as a warehouse of links to info about the Dominionists. I could create a list of sites to link to.

I didn't have anything else to do today, so...

http://dangerofdominionism.blogspot.com/

...I looked it over and found it quite informational. This is a good beginning. I reviewed some of the articles and watched the video. The article about animal cruelty was quite disturbing, I stopped reading about halfway through it when I got to the spot about the soring issue of the Tennessee Walking Horses. Those sons-of-bitches are really sick! (I dropped that article as a link on my sister's FB page, she is a Conservative Christian but she also hates animal cruelty, thought that would grab her attention.) I especially liked Interfaith Alliance's State of Belief Radio's interview with Chris Hedges. I am famliar with his work, there are a few vids I know of where he gives his talk about his book.

In the meantime, I think it would be a good idea to see if we can get more people involved in possibly forming a committee.

Just mail/message me thru my DU inbox and send the links.

Also, if YOU want to write something (an anecdote, a reflection, observation, etc), send it along and I'll add
it in a post on the blog. I can do it pretty quick and easy with the blogspot format.

Also, any ideas for post titles/themes, etc etc etc.


The animal cruelty stuff is especially revealing, IMO.

That anecdote about Jerry Falwell's father killing and cooking his oil company employee's cat and
serving it to him as some kind of comeuppance,
really says a lot about some of the kind of baggage these people inevitably carry inside them.

It's almost Texas-Chainsaw Massacre stuff.

To the general public: This is a list, though not exaustive, of the knowledge base concerning Dominionism. I have broken it down into a basic pattern for the novice who is only just now learning about the threat to the American Republic and our secular form of government by these fascist Christian bigots. I sometimes give several sources for the same subject for both cross referencing and to ensure that whatever criticisms may be directed towards the subject the truth of the reality of Dominionism cannot be denied, as some people have tried to do. I know that this is a lot of info, so I suggest to just pace yourself, take your time; take breaks if you have to, you don't have to digest all of this in one session; it may take days, so bookmark it or copy and paste to your word processor and save as a file.

The beginning of all wisdom concerning Dominionism is:

Wikipedia: Christian Reconstructionism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionism
Public Eye: Christian Reconstructionism: http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre1.html
The Reconstructionist Movement on the New Christian Right: http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=234

Cornelius Van Til, Presuppositional Apologist and grandfather of Christian Reconstructionism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Van_Til

Presuppositional Apologetics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presuppositional_apologetics

Rousas John Rushdoony, the father of Christian Reconstructionism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousas_Rushdoony

Wikipedia: Theonomy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theonomy
CARM (Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry): Christian Reconstructionism, Theonomy: https://carm.org/christian-reconstructionism-theonomy

Wikipedia: The Institutes of Biblical Law, by R.J. Rushdoony: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Institutes_of_Biblical_Law

A Review of the Institutes of Biblical Law by John M. Frame: http://www.frame-poythress.org/the-institutes-of-biblical-law-a-review-article/

Millenialism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism

Religious Tolerance: Competing Theories of Eschatology, End Times, and Millenialism: http://www.religioustolerance.org/millenni.htm

Theopedia.com: Postmillenialism: http://www.theopedia.com/Postmillennialism
Got Questions.org?: Postmillenialism: http://www.gotquestions.org/postmillennialism.html

Theocracy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy

Wikipedia: Dominion Theology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology
Got Questions.org?: What is Dominion Theology/Theonomy/Christian Reconstructionism?
http://www.gotquestions.org/dominion-theology.html
The Deception of Dominion Theology: http://dominion-theology.blogspot.com/
Frances Schaeffer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Schaeffer
Wikipedia: L'Abri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Abri
Christianity Today: Not Your Father's L'Abri: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/march/36.60.html

Gary North (economist): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_North_(economist)
Wolves in Sheep's Clothing: Gary North, Y2K, and Hidden Agendas: http://www.sweetliberty.org/garynorth.htm#.VR0J5Lk5CUk

Deception In The Church: New Apostolic Reformation: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html

Seven Mountains Dominionism:
7 Cultural Mountains.org: http://www.7culturalmountains.org/*
Examining the “Seven Mountains” Movement: https://futuristguy.wordpress.com/2009/01/28/examining-the-seven-mountains-movement/
Rafael Cruz Preaches Seven Mountains Theology, Tells Activists to 'Stop Electing the Village Idiot': http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rafael-cruz-preaches-seven-mountains-theology-tells-activists-stop-electing-village-idiot
Salon: The Christian Right's “dominionist” Strategy: http://www.salon.com/2011/08/21/posner_nar_dominionism/

David Barton (History Revisionist): Barton's Bunk: Religious Right 'Historian' Hits the Big Time in Tea Party America: http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/barton-s-bunk-religious-right-historian-hits-the-big-time-tea-party-america

Liars For Jesus: The Religious Right's Alternate Version of American History—Volume I: http://www.liarsforjesus.com/

Theocracy Watch (The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party) [beaucoup extensive articles and research on this subject—when you get to this point take your time, there is a lot to digest on this website].
http://theocracywatch.org/

Crooked Crosses: https://crookedcrosses.wordpress.com/

United States Fascism, Christian Dominionism is Fascism: http://unitedstatesfascism.blogspot.com/2013/09/christian-dominionism-is-fascism.html


Youtube Videos on the subject:

Seven Mountains Dominionism and Christian Reconstruction Part 1 Mirror:

Dominionism and the American Elections:
1. Definitions of Dominionism Interviews on Dominionism Martin Erdmann:
2. Bypassing the Cross Interviews on Dominionism Martin Erdmann
3. Old Testament Exaggerated Interviews on Dominionism Martin Erdmann:

What Does The Christian Right Want? Chris Hedges on American Fascists (2007):

Dominionism Theocracy, New Apostolic Reformation & Rick Perry—Rachel Tabachnick Interview:

Fighting Religious Indoctrination in the US Military (w/Mikey Weinstein):

Ted Gresham: The Mobile Home Dialogs: Dominionism, The Wolf in Christian Sheep's Clothing:


The God Discussion Show: What is a theocracy?

The God Discussion Show (Radio Broadcast): October 7, 2010 (15 parts):
Part 1: News Review
Part 2: News and Christian Dominionism
Part 3: Shocking Evangelical Infiltration in the Military:
Part 4: Christian Evangelical Dominionists snub the law, endanger troops
Part 5: Mikey Weinstein, Imprecatory Prayer and Links to Military Chaplains
Part 6: The Danger of Christian Dominionism—An explosive mix of fanaticism
Part 7: MRFF nominated 2x for Nobel Peace Prize; Cult Activity in Colorado
Part 8: The Cult of Christian Dominionism in the Military
Part 9: Freedom vs. Theocracy; The 7 Mountains Mandate
Part 10: Cadets living in fear due to toxic religion:
Part 11: The Air Force Academy's Climate Survey
Part 12: Christian nationalism and history revision
Part 13: The Christian Nation: David Barton's Skewed History
Part 14: The propagand of Christian nationalism
Part 15: Christian dominionists want to 'reclaim' what they never had

I put it in!

http://dangerofdominionism.blogspot.com/

Spread it far and wide as much as possible.

Well nikto, looks like it is just you and I in this whole forum who actually gives a damn about this subject. Thank you for taking an interest and adding these links to your website.

I have been warning people on the net and in letters to the editor for years about these treasonous bastards and bitches, and to be frank, I am losing hope. No one is paying attention and the media is ignoring this news story. No one is taking this issue seriously like they should. No one is taking up arms or forming a movement as I have been trying to urge everyone to do so. I have done what I could. I am laying my burden down. I am finished with being the lone voice in the wilderness.

As I see it, the Republicans will steal the national elections and install a Dominionist POTUS. Things will continue to grow worse on domestic and foreign policies as theocracy and biblical law will be established. In 5 to 10 years I expect there will be containment camps established for the imprisonment of the "undesirables" of Dominionist society: gays, atheists, intellectuals, scientists, Pagans, Wiccans, other Non-Christians, and Christians who are not "Christian enough." The U.S. Military, infested with Dominionists, will be used to enforce this paradigm.

Add this one to your website nikto, it is a novel written about what a Christian theocracy will look like ("Christian Nation" by Frederic C. Rich): http://www.any-read.com/read/Christian_Nation/index.html


Good day, and good luck.

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Since I have not yet made enough posts in these forums to e-mail you directly, it will suffice to send you this last message.

I suggest that you should have a section of your website highlighting the Dominionist connections of candidates for President. This morning I saw on CNN that Rand Paul is going to announce today that he will run on the GOP side. We already know that Ted Cruz is a Dominionist, and any other future GOP (or even Democratic) politicians running for President that have Dominionist connections needs to be broadcast. You should keep your eye on that. When in future other Dominionists like Mike Huckabee throw their hat in the ring, google search them and find out their connections to Dominionism and put it on your blog and broadcast the hell out of it, drop it in as many comments sections of any political discussion as possible. That is just my two cents worth.

Ted Cruz: http://www.talk2action.org/story/2015/3/23/133750/843

Rand Paul: http://www.goddiscussion.com/28001/ron-paul-rand-paul-and-christian-reconstructionism/

http://www.peacock-panache.com/2015/03/rand-paul-supports-dominionist-10881-2.html

Oh, and almost forgot...Scot Walker of Wisconsin: http://www.bluecheddar.net/?p=36162

I wish you well.

http://dangerofdominionism.blogspot.com/

I've added both more posts and more pics for color.
Any suggestions are welcome!
Any cool pics you know of?

I have contacted a couple people I know thru a friend who have some background in
terms of being raised Christian, but adamantly do not share the sentiments of the Christian Right.

They may contribute a few things, we'll see.

This issue has lit a bit of a fire in me lately, since the rash of religious right BS has erupted in
recent weeks, including a recent "kill the gays" law in here in CA that I haven't even dealt with yet in the blog.

Ofcourse, the blog has only existed since wednesday (2 & 1/2 days), so that's not too bad.

This issue has shot-up in importance in the minds of many Liberals/Progressives,
so we may all be part of a new wave.

Basically, I'm sick of this RW phony, distorted Christian crap used for brainwashing and discrimination.
And they've really kicked-it up lately.

Time for a rational, but powerful, response.

you are so right. What is definitely needed is an anti-Dominionist movement, and ADM if you will. The Dominionists are a very scary bunch. I have been trying to warn people about them for years. People of all backgrounds, religious or not, Progressive or not, gay or not, white, black, red, yellow, however you want to break down humanity into categories, WE ARE ALL IN DANGER!!! And all of us who care about this issue of Dominionism HAVE TO, MUST come together and form an alliance to move against these fascists. It is the only way we are going to have a saner political environment and move forward with and in American Society and save our Republic: the removal of Dominionism from our government, judiciary, and military, and society. Conservatism is so wrapped up in Dominionist religious rhetoric. I view Conservatism as a cancer that must be surgically removed to save the American Body Politic.

Let me introduce everyone to Ted Gresham, a regular secular joe from Texas, has an online blog (The Mobile Home Dialogs, check it out: https://mobilehomedialogs.wordpress.com/who-am-i/). He has many videos touching on this and other subjects. I highly recommend him. Here are links to some of his printed and video blogs:

Truth. What is it?

Posts Tagged With Lies: https://mobilehomedialogs.wordpress.com/tag/lies/

Don't Be Stupid:

Don't Be Stupid!...Part Two:

Ted Answers Ron Paul's Questions:

Alex Jones is an Idiot:

Christian Political Hypocrisy (Part one):

Dominionism, The Wolf In Christian Sheep's Clothing (Part Two of Christian Political Hypocrisy):

Enjoy!

I have found a page that has links to videos that Theocracy Watch has made. Just started watching the one of Joan Boaker giving her talk to a large auditorium audience. I highly recommend these.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

...to be really serious of forming an anti-Dominionist movement, we are going to need to recruit people. And here are the qualifications and characteristics we need to be looking for:

1. A realization of the nature and seriousness of the Dominionist threat.
2. A willingness to fight this threat.
3. A willingness to be bold and brave.
4. A hardline attitude against Dominionism.
5. A willingness and ability to be activists for the cause.
5. Aptitude in mainly four areas of expertise: organizational, political, legal, and military, either individually in one area and/or individuals who have mastery of all four or any combination of the four.
6. A drive to achieve goals set by our movement. That goal is the neutralization and removal of Dominionists from our government, our judiciary, and our military.

In order for this goal to be achieved, a study must be made of all Dominionist organizations and leadership and financing of said organizations. Study the enemy, find out their weaknesses and exploit those weaknesses, then go in for the kill. Dominionists will not care whether or not you get hurt in their wake, so we should equally be unconcerned whether or not they get hurt. Remember, if they ever get a chance to gain power and control, they will eliminate you, and that is one of their goals.

extinct.

in the late 19th century, said to my father when he was teaching him how to fish when he was a little boy.

My father, in turn, repeated my grandfathers words to my brothers and I when he was teaching us how to fish.

What he said was this:

"The first and most important rule of fishing is, never cast your line near a starving man with a fish on, unless you want to drown in the river."

This is not only a good rule for fishing, it is also a good thing to remember in life.

I say, kudos to Robert Kirkman.

progressives.
I would suggest that any political clout LGBT people might seem to have was won under conditions I would not wish on my worst enemy. And it was hard fucking earned.
And as a life long pro choice activist, I see no divide among progressives on Choice. Nor any competitive feeling among progressives. I say the same as an LGBT activist. I'm also a lifelong Democrat, although this Party took years to stop being bigoted toward LGBT people.
I offer that if a progressive look at a progressive issue as being about 'the other' it is that person who is creating an illusion of separation.

neutralizing the religious right? (Because we know who really has the power)

Then there are those who are "defending" our rights because it is politically convenient, much in the same way big corporations are doing it; they just have different reasons, neither really support LGBT or women's rights, only their own agendas, our rights be damned.

I am for human rights for all, without exceptions or with caveats. I wouldn't be alone is observing that some seem to think that "their victimhood" is worse and should be the primary focus, all of the time. Dare to not agree? Even here, they game the system trying to silence you or even get you TSed if they can.

time and again.

Most Americans are pro-choice. Increasingly, large majorities of Americans support LGBT equality, including marriage equality.

These are loser issues for the GOP to continue to flog. They ONLY appease an increasingly narrow and out-of-touch segment of the base. The big money people who control the GOP from the top were happy to let the Religious Right run rampant back when that crap about all-powerful values voters was still being peddled 10 years ago, but now they know that being painted as puritan jesus crazies only hurts the Republican brand. And badly.



I don't think there is any great plan, they're just doing what they do. Dinosaurs, on their way out.

...and it is a major mistake. As yourselves this question: how did the Nazi Party rise to power in Germany? If you say that a similar situation can never happen here in America then you have not been paying attention. Ignore the Dominionists at your own risk, and at the risk of your own nation. These people are dead serious about what they are doing.

"Shortly after the sentencing in Adolf Hitler’s trial in Munich, Marxist philosopher and publisher Ernst Bloch attempted to explain Hitler’s popularity and appeal in the independent weekly Das Tage-Buch. He cautioned against underestimating Hitler and National Socialism on account of their low-brow rhetoric. Bloch recognized that National Socialism was particularly attractive to youth, and he regarded this situation as potentially dangerous."--http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/pdf/eng/NAZI_BLOCH_ENG-.pdf

The Nazi Road to Power: http://www.johndclare.net/Rempel_Nazi27.htm

The 14 Points of Fascism: The Warning Signs-- http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

But the facts on the ground regarding public opinion and equality for LGBT citizens, as well as reproductive choice, are what they are. They are. And the trends in public opinion - particularly on marriage equality- are simply, statistically, undeniable.

So as much as the folks who fantasize about establishing their little tinpot theocratic totalitarianisms may piss and moan when those facts are pointed out, Too bad. Call the waaaaaaaaahmbulance.

It's about everyone who has been denied rights, not only women and/or gays.

Don't lose focus. Don't let anyone divide us. Don't help anyone divide us.