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Indiana Nurse Charged With Felony 'Resisting Arrest' for Driving to Safer Area for Traffic Stop
http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/03/indiana-nurse-resisting-arrest
A Portage, Indiana, nurse is facing felony resisting-arrest charges because she didn't immediately pull over when a police car flashed its lights behind her on a dark county road. DelRea Good, 52, said she assumed the car behind her was a police officer but, as a woman traveling alone late at night, she was concerned for her safety. So Good put on her emergency flashers, motioned out the window to acknowledge the car, and drove less than a mile down the road to pull over in a lit Kohl's parking lot.
Porter County Sheriff's Department Patrolman William Marshall wrote in his incident report that he initially flagged Good for speeding. In the department store parking lot, he handcuffed Good and took her to the county jail, where she was booked on a felony charge of resisting arrest. From The Times of Northwest Indiana:
"I felt I didn't do anything wrong," Good said. "I got to a safe place and I told him that."
Porter County Sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Larry LaFlower said, "The sheriff's office supports our officer's decision in this matter." He cited state law requiring motorists to yield to emergency vehicles and said Marshall was driving a fully marked squad car and used the lights and siren.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I don't blame her in the least bit. Maybe if the 'good' cops actually policed the 'bad' cops, women would not fear for their safety so much when and officer pulls them over?
mainer
(12,034 posts)I recall a mysterious disappearance of a woman in Hawaii whose car was found at the side of the highway in working order, with her wallet open to her driver's license on the front seat. There was widespread belief that she was murdered by someone pretending to be a police officer. Or could it be ... a real police officer?
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)who pulled them over while they were driving to her house. I have a hard time believing that any judge is going to allow this charge in court. I hope not, anyway!
I've known for DECADES that I will never pull over on a dark road just because someone has flashing lights on top of his car.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Has probably been drinking so you get pulled over more. Police need to realize lots of others works different hours than 8 to 5.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)yep keep it up. bad cops
unlike the nice cop who turned around years ago when I was sitting out watching the flooding waters and "warned" me about my missing license plate. every state is different about front plates. mine had fallen off and didn't know. Today they'd hall my in jail no doubt
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I hope she gets excellent legal help and can then sue. She did the right thing and should be a model, not in frickin prison.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)yeah she did the right thing.
crash and at high speeds never can tell myself where to pull over. on a busy highway with lights
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)And then trying to make this into an anti woman thing?
sinkingfeeling
(51,482 posts)difficulties IE was haven't in attempting to copy/paste information. If you cannot grasp that all this woman did was what the very same police community has been telling women for ages to do when somebody attempts to pull them over at night, I'm sorry.
Here's a few other sources:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ind-nurse-faces-felony-not-stopping-safety-article-1.2171710
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3023487/Nurse-faces-felony-charges-driving-half-mile-lighted-parking-lot-stop-cop-pulled-dark-rural-road.html
http://www.bostonnewstime.com/regional/98119-indiana-nurse-faces-felony-charges-for-trying-to-be-safe-after-being-pulled-over.html
There 357,000 hits on Google.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)why are you still using IE? My gosh.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
Logical
(22,457 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)still would like to hear why this proves Indiana hates women
JohnnyRingo
(18,669 posts)Though 51% of Indiana is a female majority, I've heard how women talk about each other. My ex herself seemed to have a C word for nearly all she knew- and those were her friends. Add to that the entire minority population of men in Indiana, and it's clear that everyone in "Indiana hates women". It's easier to understand when you have the math in front of you.
Kidding aside and to the real point here, I believe this cop overreached in his ticketing. At very worst she may have deserved verbally chastised. I"m hopeful to say the fleeing & eluding charge will be the first thing the prosecutor throws out during arraignment.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)That sheriff's department needs a good kick in the a**
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)What she did also made *him* safer in the parking lot than standing on the side of the road. One of the most dangerous things in a cop's job is writing a ticket on the side of the road.
But she probably didn't think to tell him that. So he was insulted that she did not trust him.
There is absolutely nobody in the world with a thinner skin than our cops.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)Indiana with it's f'd up state government, congressional members etc ever do to fix wall that's Wrong in Indiana..I will NEVER buy a product from them, nor will I Ever travel to and/or through that state!
A) Legalized Discrimination
B) Sentenced a young woman to 20 years in prison for a miscarriage.
C) Ended Safe Needle Exchanges and ended up with an Aids Epidemic
D) Made it a Felony to reasonably seek Public Safety and Public Officer Safety
E) Everything else we don't know yet.
Actually....Pretty much the Whole South, Midwest and SE Coast are Off Limits for me, at this juncture.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)...it is yet another illustration of our police state-ish status quo.
sinkingfeeling
(51,482 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Put on hazard lights to alert them that you see them and are complying, and then go to somewhere less remote. She didn't even go very far.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)This woman's ordeal needs Natl Attention as well.
What an effed up country.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)If a woman put in prison for miscarriage hasn't sparked mass revolt, I don't know what will.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
lpbk2713
(42,770 posts)Whenever a lone female driver gets pulled over by what turns out to be some jackass with a flashing light impersonating an officer the article will usually confirm most law enforcement agencies recommend looking for a nearby well lighted area, preferably with other people around. I hope this goes to court and the judge reams the clown that doesn't know his job a new asshole.
eShirl
(18,505 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)"and I'll be suing the fuck out of your Sheriff's Office the minute I get out of here."
Buns_of_Fire
(17,202 posts)I got news for Spokesman Larry: On a dark road, Deputy Dawg could have been driving the General Lee and anyone in front wouldn't have been able to tell the difference. All they're going to see is the lights.
I sincerely hope Ms. Good winds up owning that town after this is all over.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)They always support their officers, even when their actions are stupid, brutal, violent, or murderous.
I got stopped a few years ago in my small hometown. I took maybe a 1/4 mile to stop so that it would be safer for both of us. And the police officer, who knew me, berated me for not stopping immediately. I explained why, but he didn't give a fuck. This is a small town. Don't you think it makes a teeny bit of sense to not be so dickish? Guess not.
LiberalArkie
(15,730 posts)the cop and let the woman go, they could assure that a law suit would not take place.
weissmam
(905 posts)it just did
BAPhill
(184 posts)this assumes she did something arrest worthy. Its kind of presumptive.
CanonRay
(14,123 posts)Poorly trained, bad judgement, and some just plain mean. They overwhelm the good ones.
world wide wally
(21,757 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)The cops are out of control.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)This is why some people dismiss liberals.
pnwmom
(109,017 posts)pnwmom
(109,017 posts)just because they see flashing lights behind them. (At night you often can't see anything about a vehicle except for the lights.)
There have been many crimes where women have been assaulted by men pretending to be cops.
So women are advised, in my state and elsewhere (I thought all states till now), to do exactly what she did: put on her flashers and drive, slowly, to a public, well-lit spot.
To punish a woman doing so with a felony arrest? It shows a complete lack of regard for women's safety.
Yes, the title of the OP is attention-getting. Not everyone in Indiana "hates women." But Indiana's policy to charge women who are trying to be safe with felony resisting arrest is very anti-female.
Even in Mississippi, another deeply red state, they don't advise people to stop for a car with flashing lights, if they have any concern. They suggest using a cell phone, but not everyone carries one. When a woman was attacked in my state by a fake cop, police here advised women to do what this woman did -- put on flashers and slowly drive to a public, well-lit space.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/mississippi-cops-warn-drivers-stopping-homicidal-fake-cop/story?id=16349688
Mississippi authorities are urging drivers to be wary when being pulled over by a police officer after two people were shot and killed by someone police think could be posing as a cop to get motorists to stop.
"We urge everyone to be cautious while driving, especially at night," the Tate County Sheriff's Office posted on their Facebook page. "If someone attempts to pull you over with flashing lights and you feel unsure of stopping, DON'T PULL OVER. Use your cell phone and dial 911 and if it's a real officer then the dispatcher will confirm it for you and if it's not a real officer they will send help to you."
"Our deputies have been told not to overreact if someone does not immediately pull over," the sheriff's office wrote. "Your safety is our primary concern."
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... for the police to arrest women with this reason for not pulling over? Or to direct their officers to conduct themselves in the manner of this single instance?
REALLY?
pnwmom
(109,017 posts)They should have been instantly tossed. They would have been in my state.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Like you, I hope that the charges are dismissed.
pnwmom
(109,017 posts)if we're concerned about the identity of the car trying to stop us, we can acknowledge the vehicle (with a wave or with flashing lights), and then drive slowly to a safe, well-lit location. We don't have to immediately stop. And she drove less than a mile, at a low speed, with her flashers on.
Edited to add:
Ironically, it's supposed to be true in her state, too. Someone should educate the police department.
This was written in 2013 about a similar case.
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/portage/police-issue-warning-about-possible-fake-cop/article_c209ce32-8fff-5da3-89b3-ebc6cb0861f4.html
This was the only incident reported, said Sgt. Keith Hughes, and the woman used good judgment by not stopping for the man. Hughes said anyone believing they are being pulled over by a police impersonator should call 911 and let the police dispatcher make contact with the officer. If unable to contact 911, acknowledge the officer by waving at them and then drive to a well-lit public location before stopping and tell the officer about your concerns.
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)It's standard behavior in rural areas and very common here in New England as many roads don't have shoulders.
Sorry, but only a misogynist piece of shit would file felony charges for this.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Police RECOMMEND people drive until they can pull over into a safe location.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Stopping a speeder is an emergency?
From the Porter County Sheriff's office web site:
In the Preventing Sexual Assault section
In the car safety sub category
Two pertinent listings.
· Park in well-lighted areas.
· If you think you are being followed, drive to a public place or to a police or sheriff's station.
Maybe the Sheriff should let people follow the Sheriff's advice. This kind of clears the woman doesn't it?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)..from the nearest Parts Store or catalog.
Many are designed to fit behind the radiator grill where they can't be obviously seen during the daytime, but at night look exactly like a police car.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)early one morning here in Woodstock, GA. I went through what I thought was a yellow light. The cop came up behind me, flashed his lights and blew his siren. There was no safe place to pull over so I went up the road and pulled into a parking lot behind a building. He wanted to know why I did not pull over immediately and I told him there was no safe spot off the road.
He said I went through a red light and I said I thought it was yellow. Believe it not, he did not give me a ticket for running the light. But because I could not find my insurance card, he cited me for not having proof of insurance. But I still had to go to court to show my insurance card, which cost me $35.
eridani
(51,907 posts)http://portercountysheriff.com/
or Sheriff and Jail questions contact
219-477-3000 or 219-477-3050
Sheriff's Department
2755 St. Rd 49, Valparaiso, IN 46383
handmade34
(22,759 posts)we all need to be more walk along with our talk
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Really, I can't - even when I know I'm getting a ticket. I guess it's way worse in the lower 48 than I thought!
For us to "pull off in a safe place" might mean miles - literally! The last ticket I got (it was about 20 years ago) the poor officer had to follow us about 6 miles till there was a pullover on the Parks Highway. He was gracious, and correct - I had been speeding.
This is outrageous.
Enthusiast
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Oh, by the way--- the last time I tried to link to an article from Reason.com--- something about the paraplegic man in Florida who got 25 years in prison for managing his own spinal pain---
a good chunk the thread devolved into absolute screaming meltdowns about libertarians and the koch bros.
So be forewarned, some people apparently lose their shit when they see that source, regardless of the topic.
edited to add: too late!