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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:11 PM Apr 2015

Obama Administration Calls For 12 Million Acre 'Wilderness' Area In Arctic Refuge

The Obama administration on Friday finalized its recommendation to expand protected areas of Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, calling on Congress to block about 12 million acres (5 million hectares) from oil and gas drilling.

"This area is one of the most beautiful, undisturbed places in the world. It is a national treasure and should be permanently protected through legislation for future generations," Obama said in the letter.

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Obama Administration Calls For 12 Million Acre 'Wilderness' Area In Arctic Refuge (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2015 OP
Excellent!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #1
'In my second term, I will have more flexibility.' ~ President Obama. Bring it, Barack! freshwest Apr 2015 #2
He won't get it. Big Oil is way, way too big up here to buck. raven mad Apr 2015 #3
Kick sheshe2 Apr 2015 #4
So the internment begins. JohnnyRingo Apr 2015 #5
This article is in desperate need of more data GitRDun Apr 2015 #6
Believe it or not there are plants and animals that thrive on all parts of the globe. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #7
I agree with you GitRDun Apr 2015 #9
"All of us would rather risk a frozen bog than the US Coastal waters" yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2015 #10
"It is a frozen swamp / bog. Not anything like the pictures of pristine acreage" yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2015 #8
12 Million acres.. Wow! That's a lot of beautiful natural Habitat~ Mahalo Obama~ Cha Apr 2015 #11
K Cha Apr 2015 #12

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. 'In my second term, I will have more flexibility.' ~ President Obama. Bring it, Barack!
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:35 PM
Apr 2015

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JohnnyRingo

(18,669 posts)
5. So the internment begins.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:07 AM
Apr 2015

I imagine this is where Obama will ship off Tea Party dissidents unwilling the accept the terms of Agenda 21, kind of like an Alinsky version of his own Siberia. "North To The Future!".

I can't wait to read about it on Sarah Palin's Facebook. hahaha

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
6. This article is in desperate need of more data
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:29 AM
Apr 2015

One of the big misnomers in oil and gas drilling is that in Alaska, operators want to drill on a pristine part of the Alaskan Wildlife Reserve. I am in the oil and gas business. Have a good friend who has drilled up there for five decades. I've seen pictures of the land that has the oil rich deposits. It is a frozen swamp / bog. Not anything like the pictures of pristine acreage you see in many articles.

From my perspective we need to be very careful we don't buy into an environmental theocracy where pragmatic decision-making would tell us to do something irrational.

It would be far better to find reserves in a wasteland no one really cares about than drill off our pristine coasts where multi-billion dollar gathering systems put together by the lowest bidder determine the fate of our shorelines.

Renewables are the future. We should be practical as we move to that new era.





liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
7. Believe it or not there are plants and animals that thrive on all parts of the globe.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:34 AM
Apr 2015

Plants and animals don't care if their environment is pretty. They evolve and adapt and live in every corner of the globe even the unattractive parts.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
9. I agree with you
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:08 AM
Apr 2015

I am just saying that if you look at energy needs from a pragmatic sense, the ANWR reserves are likely the least environmentally intrusive option.

I would rather full scale operate on a frozen bog than underwater West or EAst Coast.

The pictures they show us are misleading. All of us would rather risk a frozen bog than the US Coastal waters.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
10. "All of us would rather risk a frozen bog than the US Coastal waters"
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 01:24 AM
Apr 2015

The oil companies will screw up our environment and then all that oil will be shipped to China!

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
8. "It is a frozen swamp / bog. Not anything like the pictures of pristine acreage"
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:42 AM
Apr 2015

Out of sight ,out of mind, you can spill all the oil you want and nobody would even know!

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