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TexasTowelie

(112,543 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 03:59 PM Apr 2015

American And Iranian Extremists Are United... In Hatred

Normal Iranians and normal Americans seemed pretty optimistic about the deal announcement Thursday. In fact, in Iran, "ecstatic" is probably a better description than optimistic-- at least among Tehran's middle class. For Americans, far more subjected to a ceaseless barrage of extremist propaganda, optimism was as far as it could be expected to go. And in the most backward parts of the U.S., particularly the old slave-holding states of the Confederacy, there is no optimism at all-- just another reason, among so many, to be perpetually aggrieved.

Many people see it as a really good deal. And it looks pretty good-- better than anyone could have expected in the context of all the ranting and raving by Netanyahu, Tom Cotton and the "Bomb Iran" coalition.

If this deal is fully implemented, Iran will be unable to build a nuclear bomb by enriching uranium or by reprocessing plutonium for at least 10 years. Some of the restrictions imposed by this deal would last 15 years. The international inspections of certain aspects of Iran’s nuclear program would stay in place for 25 years.

As for the economic sanctions against Iran, they would be lifted not upon the deal’s signing, as the Iranians initially demanded, but only after the inspectors have verified that Iran has fulfilled all of its commitments in the deal.

These commitments include reducing the number of Iran’s installed centrifuges by two-thirds (from about 19,000 to 6,104, with only 5,060 allowed to enrich uranium); reducing its stockpile of enriched uranium by 97 percent (from 10,000 kilograms to 300 kilograms); to remove all advanced centrifuges (those that can enrich uranium at a much faster rate) and to place them in internationally monitored storage; to destroy the core of the Arak heavy-water reactor (which could produce a plutonium bomb), ship all its spent fuel out of the country, and forgo additional reprocessing; among other things.

...{I}it is a profoundly good deal; there has never been a nuclear deal, with any country, that is so comprehensively restrictive. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu urged the U.S. Congress to demand “a better deal,” but his definition of such a deal-- one that bans uranium enrichment, dismantles all its facilities, and insists on a drastic change in Iran’s foreign policy-- is unattainable, and, more to the point, he knows it.

Yes, this deal wouldn’t keep Iran from being a menace in Middle East politics, or from repressing its own people. But no arms control deal can aspire to do that. The U.S.-Soviet strategic arms treaties, signed throughout the Cold War, didn’t require the Soviet Union to disavow communism, end its support of Third World insurgencies, or institute Jeffersonian democracy-- but the deals were still very useful. They capped, and in the later years reversed, the nuclear arms race; and they provided a forum for diplomacy, a cooling-off of the distrust and hatred, at a time when no other issues could have done so.


But that isn't what American extremists like Cotton, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are looking for. In their childish fantasy world, "negotiations" equals America dictating terms to smaller, weaker countries... period. Virtually all of the GOP would-be presidential candidates immediately condemned the framework that emerged Thursday. The Wall Street Journal pointed out that Scott Walker is already vowing to dismantle the deal if he's elected president.

“Nothing in the deal described by the administration this afternoon would justify lifting U.S. and international sanctions,” said former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, one of the leading contenders for the Republican presidential nomination. “I cannot stand behind such a flawed agreement.”

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, one of the fiercest critics of the deal and also expected to announce a White House bid, vowed to work with his colleagues on Capitol Hill to review the deal and perhaps seek additional sanctions to ensure Iran doesn’t obtain a nuclear weapon. Mr. Rubio is one of four Senate Republicans considering a White House run who signed a letter last month warning Iranian leaders that Congress might try to unravel the deal.

“The initial details appear to be very troubling,” Mr. Rubio said after the deal was announced. “Tehran is gaining international acceptance of its nuclear ambitions and will receive significant sanctions relief without making serious concessions.”

Mr. Walker went a step further when he told a Wisconsin radio host on Thursday that one of his first acts as president would be to dismantle the deal.


Read more: http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2015/04/american-and-iranian-extremists-are.html
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American And Iranian Extremists Are United... In Hatred (Original Post) TexasTowelie Apr 2015 OP
Right wingers Abouttime Apr 2015 #1
Maybe we should wait until there is a deal. former9thward Apr 2015 #2
 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
1. Right wingers
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:08 PM
Apr 2015

Isis is right wing, the tea party is right wing, Saddam was right wing, the Nazis were right wing.
All are evil.

former9thward

(32,106 posts)
2. Maybe we should wait until there is a deal.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 04:18 PM
Apr 2015

There is none now. Just a "framework." Even with that the Iranians say the U.S. is giving out false information about agreement on sanctions. The U.S. says sanctions would be suspended not terminated. Iran says the sanctions would be terminated immediately. This is not a petty matter. UN sanctions would be set by the Security Council. New sanctions would be vetoed by Russia and China so enforcing compliance would be impossible.

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