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Three years ago, President Obama, in a discussion about the threat of a nuclear Iran, bluntly rejected a policy of containment. It would be dangerous, he suggested, to believe that the United States could contain Iran in the same way it contained a nuclear Soviet Union. In an interview with me, and then in a speech before AIPAC, he argued that a nuclear-armed Iran would represent an acute threat to Israel, as well as a profound national-security threat to the United States itself, in part because the existence of an Iranian bomb would likely trigger a nuclear-arms race in the worlds most volatile region.
To reassure Israelis, whose country is targeted for elimination by the Iranian regime, he said, in the interview: I think that the Israeli government recognizes that, as president of the United States, I don't bluff. I also don't, as a matter of sound policy, go around advertising exactly what our intentions are. But I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say.
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The best argument Obama can make for this deal is the argument hes consistently madethat a deal is better than the alternatives. There is much apocalyptic talk emanating from Israel at the moment, and I understand it. The imbalance in the Iran-Israel relationship is not often understood, especially by cheerleaders for a deal. Iran seeks the physical annihilation of Israel. Israel seeks cordial relations with Iran. Of course Israel is worried that an anti-Semitic regime will be allowed to maintain a nuclear infrastructure.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/on-iran-the-least-worst-option/389598/
Mosby
(16,385 posts)The biggest test facing the Obama administration nowapart from actually getting the deal, in all its complicated detail, done by the end of Juneis in confronting the challenge a resurgent Iran is posing across the Middle East. Two things about President Obama are true: He and his team approached these negotiations assuming that Iran would lie, cheat, and steal, but he also holds out hope that a dealand the economic benefits that flow from such a dealwill strengthen the hands of Iranian moderates. I tend to doubt this last part. I dont believe that a bullying, terror-supporting, Assad-backing would-be regional hegemon whose ideology is built on anti-Americanism becomes more reasonable once it becomes richer and more empowered.
Which means that Obama will now have to do the thing he has been reluctant to do so far: confront Iran in Syria and Yemen and Lebanon in a sustained and creative way. Hes been reaching out to Israel and to Americas Arab friends in order to formulate such a strategya strategy U.S. allies in the Middle East have been begging him to deviseand I believe he realizes that he has a freer hand to confront Irans regional ambitions now that hes secured a preliminary nuclear agreement. I hope he uses his power to check these ambitions, and I hope he spends the next three months making sure that the final deal is as stringent as possible. There is no way for an American president to guarantee that, years after he leaves office, Iran will not gain control of nuclear weapons. But there are still things this American president can do to check Irans power in long-lasting ways.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Peace must really offend some.
The one that maybe someone will sign in a couple months?
Rex
(65,616 posts)Nice try.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Did I just read that? Omg. So, let me get this straight, calling for air strikes against Iran and fearmongering about them being "on the cusp of getting a nuclear weapon" for twenty years is seeking cordial relations? Really? Are we living in backwardsville? Yeah right.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)in this, he laid it on the blade:
I think that the Israeli government recognizes that, as president of the United States, I don't bluff. I also don't, as a matter of sound policy, go around advertising exactly what our intentions are. But I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say
President Obama might take a while, but he is indeed shrewd and thoughtful. Many have tried to paint him as a weak leader because he researches and follows laws, while waiting for his opponents to trip themselves. When they are caught in the morass looking like clumsy idiots, he states what he stated before, states it again, and makes certain to follow through with it.
I am not one of the "eleven dimensional" chess devotees of our President. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't underestimate him at chess.
I'd be far more afraid of him at the poker table.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)foo_bar
(4,193 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Goldberg#Political_views
http://www.lobelog.com/jewish-journal-jeffrey-goldberg-maintains-the-dignity-of-pre-iraq-war-reporting/
Aerows
(39,961 posts)doing all of this wailing and gnashing of the teeth over the fact that the US chose the path of peace rather than the knee jerk reaction of war that Israel prefers, I'd be careful.
If "something" happens in your neighborhood and you scream for the US to make war on your behalf against Iran, you are liable to find yourselves in a very difficult position.
The US has grown up quite a bit in a few decades. Another USS Liberty will have a very different result.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)So any talk of "targeted for annihilation" is so much absurdist hyperbole. Israel does not seek cordial relations with Iran. Israel seeks to remain the de facto regional hegemon by eliminating the possibility that Iran can acquire nuclear weapons, which would alter the balance of power. Netanyahu and his coterie of right-wing American supporters have probably been doing more to make Iran seek nuclear weapons by beating the drum of war than anyone.