I'll take the will not end of the bet.

Cuz...


"Look forward."

It was filed in a French court by two individuals who have no standing in the court. So, no, the DOJ will not extradite them because the French government will not ask for it.

Everything I read shows that this was a summons by a French court. However, the expectation is that the U.S. will not be cooperative and there is little chance of extradition or voluntary compliance.

As far as standing, the court decides that (even in France by my understanding).

Generally, the idea that victims do not have standing is employed by conservatives, especially on the Supreme Court, at least of late.

As usual. Journalism by press release. Let's see the French government extradition request. Doesn't exist.

And simply say "poorly written article"?

Again, did you just make upyour claims? They were claims of fact, or at least presented that way.

And I know how extradition works. Where is the extradition request. Nonexistent. Are you making that up?

You wrote: "It was filed in a French court by two individuals who have no standing in the court."

All I challenged you on and asked if you made up was the question of "standing".

That is what you have dropped. I cannot find anything backing up the idea that they have no standing. It is crucial to your argument.

Did you make it up?

Individuals can not. If you don't believe that go down to your nearest court and try to file a criminal action against Bush. That is what I meant by saying that they had no standing. If you don't like how I phrased it, too bad. I am still waiting for that extradition order. Did you make it up?

to outside courts.

courts to suddenly have jurisdiction, if it did Bush and Cheney would have been in prison by now.

justice system hasnt done anything to them doesnt mean some other country suddenly has jurisdiction over them.

If the country does not prosecute, it is incumbent on other signatories to do so.

probably wont try.
The US just has more than enough influence to prevent that because it would be a huge embarrassment to have such a thing happen to any US citizen.
Does this make the US look like a hypocrite? Yup.

The rest of the world will, whether we sign on to the ICC or not.

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This case is not a government action. It is 2 people filing a complaint. They have no legal authority to bring a case. Only the government can.

We have so many of these war criminals living in luxury in this country we should be ashamed.

I doubt the US will extradite him, they refuse to extradite the convicted CIA operatives also.

Let's see if he has the guts to go voluntarily, but I doubt it.

These bullies are basically cowards.

But it's good to see them shamed on the International stage since our own country refuses to apply our own laws to these deviant human beings.