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sheshe2

(83,979 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:11 PM Apr 2015

Noticing Insurgency

I am not the only one who is noticing the rumblings of insurgency. Apparently Colbert King is seeing the same thing.

It’s a scary thought, but here it is: If some red states were to openly defy the authority of President Obama in the exercise of his constitutional duties, would today’s Republican Congress side with him? Or would they honor the insurrection?

I wish it could be said with confidence that the legislative branch would oppose a rebellion against the executive branch of government. But I’m not so sure...

American history teaches that we are on a dangerous path. And history has a way of repeating itself. A little more than 150 years ago, this country experienced another bombastic phase. Hatred of a president and his government’s policies produced a bloody schism that eventually led to an accord grounded in hope but which papered over a disharmony still lingering today.

Then, as now, there was a president, Abraham Lincoln, accused by those who detested him of misusing presidential power, subverting the Constitution and trampling over states’ rights. Then, as now, that president was characterized as a ruthless tyrant bent upon destroying a superior civilization.


http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2015/04/noticing-insurgency.html

Wow, this... "Then, as now, that president was characterized as a ruthless tyrant bent upon destroying a superior civilization." Then as now, yes, the superior civilization. Well, that is pretty black and white to me.




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Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
1. The basic
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:39 PM
Apr 2015

Foundation for an insurgency has been laid down by the republican leaders, there is no doubt at all which side they will fall on, they have already told states to ignore legal executive orders.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. I often think where we could be as a nation if the GOP did not push so damn hard to destroy.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:40 PM
Apr 2015

Cool Hand Luke Obama just keeps on doing his job, he deserves lots of credit for very hard work.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Another American insurgency is doomed as Obama stays cool, remains popular, and the economy thrives. Period.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:01 PM
Apr 2015

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. Pretty black and white?
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 09:54 PM
Apr 2015

Nice word usage sheshe, very nice.

Definitely "black and white" in both ways that I am certain you meant. At least the opposition to Abraham Lincoln did not accuse him of not "really" being an American. They just assassinated him.

Plus add 6 years of destructive opposition by the GOP that is/was intended to paralyze the government. Sounds like treason to me.

If only we had, not even a liberal media, but a real media that was dedicated to real reporting rather than Kardashian updates and sports.

sheshe2

(83,979 posts)
6. Oh yes...
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:54 PM
Apr 2015
Pretty black and white? Nice word usage sheshe, very nice.

Definitely "black and white" in both ways that I am certain you meant.


Got me! Ya never know when a white person calling other white people a "Superior Civilization" yet~

Then, as now, that president was characterized as a ruthless tyrant bent upon destroying a superior civilization.



you never know if you go for the hide for speaking the truth.

meow2u3

(24,774 posts)
8. Ruthless tyrant, my ass!
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:17 PM
Apr 2015
Then, as now, that president was characterized as a ruthless tyrant bent upon destroying a superior civilization.



If President Obama were really the "ruthless tyrant" the neo-Confederate traitors claim he is, they'd not only be sitting behind bars without benefit of a trial, they'd also be in some black site being tortured and killed, along with their entire families.

meow2u3 to Tea Party traitors: it's time to put up or shut up. If you can't prove Obama is a tyrant, STFU once and for all!

Cha

(297,874 posts)
9. Thank you, smartypants.. I've been thinking along these lines.. So glad someone as brilliant as
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:22 PM
Apr 2015

Nancy Letourneau is writing about it.

With all the haters in the Senate doing their damnedest to undermine everything President Obama does and even though the majority is against this.. the haters know they have the US corpmedia in their pocket(Netanyahu is on MTP tomorrow).. it seems they will only get lower and lower over the next year and a half.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6460394

Sad for them our President is up in the polls

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026460282

You know that really froths their collective mouth.

Thank you, she.. I'll say it again.. I'm so glad we have President Obama at this point in History. He's shining a light on all the ugly underbelly in power.



We have to win again in 2016.

sheshe2

(83,979 posts)
10. " I'm so glad we have President Obama at this point in History. He's shining a light on all the ugly
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:10 AM
Apr 2015

Yes Cha...

your images,of Obama and Lincoln. Perfect

vimeo.com/18429639
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I want to believe, deep in every soul there is a ray of light to get us all through the ugly. We have an allotted time here on earth. I want to make it right for our children. They are our future.

Cha

(297,874 posts)
12. To future generations, she.. and to those who will make it possible
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:38 AM
Apr 2015

Beautiful rendition of America the Beautiful by Gabriel Lewis.. he has a captivating voice.

Mahalo, she.. From Sea to Shining Sea

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
13. We have much more in common with other 99 percenters than we have with the corporate One Percent.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:38 AM
Apr 2015

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It is corporate MO to divide, as this OP does. Build hatred between groups. But the truth is that we have much more in common with each other than we do with the corporate thieves who are looting and oppressing us all.

Below is the very best post I have read on DU in a while. It is by DUer, F4lconF16, and it exposes the MO of the corporate propaganda machine exactly:

On the contrary: there is a ton of money in that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6458575

They care about racism, sexism, and other forms of bigotry very much. You said as much yourself.

"And by having these serious differences they know they can keep us fighting between left and right while they get what they want on things that do matter to them"

It has been a tactic of the American elite since its very beginning. Our political and economic system is uniquely designed to fracture the working class, to keep us from uniting. It's why laws were passed in the early 1800s forbidding interracial communications--the poor Irish and the slaves were beginning to cause worry. It's why whites and blacks have had their hatreds stoked by their literal and financial masters against one another for the last 200 years. It's why gay marriage isn't legal everywhere yet, despite a majority of people supporting it. It's why women are still discriminated against (though there is a far, far longer history to that than just our political system, and indeed, political systems at all). Our entire political history has been carefully balanced oppression stacked on top of and woven into more carefully balanced oppression. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. So far it's worked more than it hasn't.

[font size=3]It is absolutely critical to keep us divided amongst ourselves. The elite care more about those issues than you might think, because without them, the people will realize their own power as one. They will become a single working class, rather than blacks and whites, men and women, straight and gay. We are a dangerous mass of humanity that would roll over them like the ocean rolls over a few pebbles.[/font size]

This is why these social issues are just as important as the economic ones, the power struggles. They are utterly critical to maintaining the illusion that there is no true working class, that we are separate, different from one another. The elite care very much about maintaining that illusion.


Enough division. Enough hatred. Enough propaganda.

Red versus Blue is a scam, a tactic to keep us divided and unable to fight back. We are the 99 percent, and we are ALL the victims of the stunningly united corporate government that now rules and exploits us:


Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
TISA corporate overlord agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks? Both parties support it.
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Mass propaganda aimed at Americans? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it. Privatization of the TVA? Both parties support it.
Immunity for telecoms? Both parties support it.
"Looking forward" and letting war criminals off the hook? Both parties support it.
Deciding torturers are patriots? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Trillion dollar increase in nuclear weapons. Both parties support it.
New war in Iraq. Both parties support it.
New war in Syria. Both parties support it.
Carpet bombing of captive population in Gaza. Both parties support it.
Selling off swaths of the Gulf of Mexico for drilling? Both parties support it.
Drilling along the Atlantic Coast? Both parties support it.
Arctic drilling for Shell Oil? Both parties support it.


Done here. Seeking out OP's that focus on uniting to solve problems rather than using words like "insurgency" to foment hatred, suspicion, and division among Americans who share this nation and its future.

Reject Third Way propaganda. Reject the Two Minutes Hate and incessant attempts to divide.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5767160











Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
15. "Both parties support it."
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:08 AM
Apr 2015

Which makes me believe we need to stop shouting, "Down with the king!" so yet another king can arise only to be shouted at and just start smashing thrones.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
14. Let's hope not.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:06 AM
Apr 2015

Let's face facts, DU is a fair representation of the President's base. That being said we're also decidedly against deploying the military and would probably prefer to see it defunded and hollowed-out, there is certainly no love for the police to be seen here and those who support the RKBA are, at best, marginalized. If push came to shove we'd be in pretty poor shape.

That's not to be taken as an endorsement of the MIC and police-state -- it isn't -- but we find ourselves as seekers of peace in a dangerous world. Our aspirations will be tested. How will WE measure up?

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