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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:59 PM Apr 2015

After Bush order, Florida universities cope with shrinking black enrollment

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — As he courts Republicans across the country, Jeb Bush boasts that an executive order he signed that ended race-based college admissions in Florida upheld conservative principles while helping minorities.

“We ended up having a system where there were more African American and Hispanic kids attending our university system than prior to the system that was discriminatory,” the former governor and likely presidential contender said recently at a conference of conservative activists.

But at Florida’s two premier universities, black enrollment is shrinking. At the University of Florida in Gainesville and at Florida State University in Tallahassee, administrators say they worry that the trend risks diminishing their standing as world-class universities and hurts the college experience.

The black share of the UF freshman class, for instance, plunged to 6 percent in 2013, the most recent year for which data is available. That is down from 9 percent in 2011.

“If we don’t address this in the next two or three years, I think we’re going to have a problem,” said Brandon Bowden, assistant vice president for student affairs at Florida State, which had a 15 percent drop in the number of black freshmen enrolled between 2000 and 2009. “There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective students (who are black) will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks like them.”

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After Bush order, Florida universities cope with shrinking black enrollment (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2015 OP
It's not a bug, Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #1
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #2
Like the article says madville Apr 2015 #3
That is not what the article says. SunSeeker Apr 2015 #13
California voters did it to themselves KamaAina Apr 2015 #4
Latest DipWad from the Bush Thespian2 Apr 2015 #5
Keep on eye on this: Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #6
I believe this is part of a growing socioeconomic trend. groundloop Apr 2015 #9
"everyone else has to settle for smaller schools." These school are gigantic. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #11
So it's Opposite Day again for the Bush Cabal.... blackspade Apr 2015 #7
Well, that was his intention when he signed the order. mfcorey1 Apr 2015 #8
really? problem? heaven05 Apr 2015 #10
I wonder how much of the drop was due to the economic problems that cstanleytech Apr 2015 #12
Admissions in Florida are totally screwed. Yes, it is still possible to be poor and get into a JCMach1 Apr 2015 #14

madville

(7,413 posts)
3. Like the article says
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:34 PM
Apr 2015

It's not because more whites are attending, their percentage is actually shrinking. It's the explosion of Hispanic enrollees that have displaced Black students.

Should they limit Hispanic enrollment in order for the percentages to equalize and bring black enrollment up to a representative share of the population, around 20%?

SunSeeker

(51,771 posts)
13. That is not what the article says.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:20 AM
Apr 2015

White enrollment is not "shrinking" compared to the percentage of the Florida population that is white. Nor is Hispanic enrollment "exploding" - it is merely keeping up with the Hispanic percentage of the Florida population.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minority-enrollment-in-the-florida-state-university-system/2015/04/06/34c212f4-dcb2-11e4-a500-1c5bb1d8ff6a_graphic.html

Hispanics have not "displaced" black students, Florida admissions policies have.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
5. Latest DipWad from the Bush
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 09:44 PM
Apr 2015

criminal cartel...how in hell would anyone ever believe that he cares for people outside his screwed-up BubbleWorld...

I suppose Florida is getting used to being near the bottom of the barrel...in almost every aspect of life.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
6. Keep on eye on this:
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 10:52 PM
Apr 2015

[quote]Black students at Florida universities are increasingly concentrated in the state’s lesser-known regional schools, which are in larger cities and have less stringent admissions requirements.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/after-bush-order-florida-universities-cope-with-shrinking-black-enrollment/2015/04/06/82d1e574-bcfe-11e4-bdfa-b8e8f594e6ee_story.html? [/quote]

This is the trend in the American university system.

groundloop

(11,528 posts)
9. I believe this is part of a growing socioeconomic trend.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:44 AM
Apr 2015

repub state governments have cut education funding for our universities, upped tuition, upped housing costs, with the end result being that our major universities are getting more and more expensive. It's only the upper echelon on the economic ladder who can afford to send their kids to these schools anymore, everyone else has to settle for smaller schools.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
11. "everyone else has to settle for smaller schools." These school are gigantic.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:51 AM
Apr 2015

They are urban, commuter schools with enrollments in excess of 40,000. Classes are huge, instructors generally underpaid.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
10. really? problem?
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:23 AM
Apr 2015

"There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective students(who are black) will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks like them" and those that are on campus will be INVISIBLE to the majority or harassed aka the 50's all over again. Soon it'll be 'Little Rock' again. Have to desegregate and destigmatize all over again...geez

cstanleytech

(26,340 posts)
12. I wonder how much of the drop was due to the economic problems that
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 06:03 PM
Apr 2015

so many in this country have experienced since Bush got into office as president.

JCMach1

(27,582 posts)
14. Admissions in Florida are totally screwed. Yes, it is still possible to be poor and get into a
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:07 AM
Apr 2015

flagship state school.

However, unless your district was rich enough to offer all AP and Honors courses you won't have a high enough GPA to get in... not to mention the bias built-in to SAT's and ACT's.

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