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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTechnically A Clinton Clinton Ticket Would Be Legal.
Interestingly the idea came up on Chicago progressive talk radio. Apparently the law says Clinton could not be "elected" to t third term. Theoretically Bill Clinton could be run for VP. And if something happened to Hillary he could become president. And that would be legal.
Boy would such a ticket have the GOP and RW going completely insane. LOL
dsc
(52,169 posts)so that is a non starter.
cali
(114,904 posts)for the VP you have to be eligible for the Presidency.
Action_Patrol
(845 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)and both the Clinton's officially reside in NY.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Snopes has a pretty good explanation.....
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp
hughee99
(16,113 posts)It means that the electoral votes from NY couldn't go to both Clintons. Assuming the electors of NY vote for Hillary, they COULDN'T vote for Bill for the VP. New York has 31 electoral votes, and if Clinton's margin of Victory is LESS than 31, then you could have president Clinton with a Republican vice president (having gotten the most votes for VP).
You're correct in that it's not specifically barred, and if the Clintons were both from Wyoming, it wouldn't be a big issue, but with 31 elector votes at stake (and for a host of other reasons), it's not going to happen.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)How hard could it be for him to have Arkansas like Cheney changed from Texas to Wyoming. I doubt it will happen but doubt it is much of a roadblock.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)I'll bet the last thing Hillary wants is her husband as VP. Not to mention the field day the press would have with a married couple not even "living the the same state".
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)just don't think the changing the home states issue will be the reason why they don't. Like you said it would be controversial considering he did serve 2 terms & things like what the would press would say, etc
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)The 22nd Amendment only forbids being ELECTED President more than twice. If he ran for Veep, he wouldn't be elected President.
Not that any of this matters. He'll never do it, Hillary would never ask him, and it wouldn't be a good thing if he did, IMO.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)For the Presidency in that case. Read what the Constitution says. "Elected to ..."
cali
(114,904 posts)dumbcat
(2,120 posts)means "elected", unless you are trying to argue against the clear terminology. And, of course, some will.
cali
(114,904 posts)dumbcat
(2,120 posts)nt
tularetom
(23,664 posts)It wouldn't be just the GOP and RW going completely insane.
It would be the final blow to America's middle class.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)They already sold the Democratic party to the banksters and the MIC, why not finish the job by just giving them the entire country to use as their litterbox.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)A person born in Canada CAN be President, so long as they were born to a citizen. As long as you are BORN a citizen, you're a NBC.
Aristus
(66,478 posts)No one can take the office of VP who isn't also eligible to serve as President. That leaves Bill out, much as I would love a third term for him.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Why not just get all this posturing over with and have a Hillary/Jamie Dimon ticket? Be more straight to the point, really.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)William769
(55,148 posts)I would not even entertain the idea.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Not worth wasting the discussion on it.
William769
(55,148 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Paging Alex Jones....
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Ever. That is all.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)nm
jmowreader
(50,567 posts)The Constitution says the electors cast ballots for a president and VP, at least one of whom is from a different state than the elector is. Most folks translate that to mean the two politicians can't be from the same state. No, what it means is, if Mike Crapo and Raul Labrador were the Republican candidates they could not receive Idaho's four votes. In practical application it'll never be tested because no one wants to write off a whole state.
If Bill were to pull $125,000 out of the bank and buy a house in Bald Knob, AR, he could declare as an Arkansas resident but it still looks flaky to me; have we no bench?
djean111
(14,255 posts)accept or entertain the idea of Hillary as already being the presidential candidate.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)if it is not consecutive.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The mind boggles
Xithras
(16,191 posts)People have played "what if" scenarios with the 22nd Amendment ever since it was passed in 1947. While both sides of the argument adamantly proclaim that they're right, the reality is that the law is vague and won't be clarified until the Supreme Court chimes in. That probably won't happen until somebody gives it a try.
Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution defines "eligibility" to be President. It sets age requirements, residency requirements and citizenship requirements.
The 22nd Amendment, by its wording, prohibits a person from being ELECTED to the office of President. It does not contain any reference to eligibility, and has no wording stating that a person is ineligible to hold the office after two terms. Its wording is specific in that it refers to being "elected".
the 12th Amendment states that nobody ineligible to serve as President can serve as Vice President.
The debate revolves around the word "ineligible". While the intent of the 22nd Amendment was clear, the wording creates a loophole in that it technically does not make a two term President "ineligible", but merely "unelectable". Generally, the camps in the argument fall into a camp that supports its "implied meaning" and intent, and another camp that is strictly reading the letter of the law itself.
While it's a fun topic to debate, we'll never see this sort of thing actually happen. Because it would unquestionably go to the Supreme Court, there's a 50/50 chance that the VP would be thrown out of office within days of the election. That would put the newly elected President into a nightmare scenario of having to select a new nominee for Vice President, and then having Congress approve it. If you think that getting federal judges, cabinet members, and Supreme Court justices approved is a nightmare, can you imagine what would happen today if Congress were allowed to vet and approve the Vice President? No party is going to risk that, no matter how well liked their former two-term President may be. It would take political gridlock to an entirely new level.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)And explode at other sites besides here!
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I had a barf bag sitting next to my computer desk!!!
You win the internet, MastersNemesis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because, you are absolutely correct!!!!!!
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Vice President Bill Clinton would reside at Number One Observatory Circle, the VP's home on the grounds of the United States Naval Observatory. For the next four to eight years, they would rarely appear together.
Bill may or may not approve of this arrangement.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Don't make it a good idea.