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KamaAina

(78,249 posts) Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:48 PM Apr 2015

Los Angeles Seeks to Ban Homeless People from Sleeping in Cars And RV’s

http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/04/07/los-angeles-seeks-to-ban-homeless-people-from-sleeping-in-cars-and-rvs/

It was recently reported that politicians in Los Angeles are seeking to ban homeless people from sleeping in their cars, and even RV’s. The city had a similar ban in the past, but it was rescinded in a federal appeals court last year because the wording of the law was too vague.

Now the city council is back with a more specifically written law that they hope will be able to permanently prevent homeless people from sleeping in vehicles. The city has also suggested selling permits to homeless people, who would be able to attain the “privilege” of camping in their cars if they pay the local government off.

Mike Feuer, one of the proponents of the new measure says that charging homeless people to sleep in their cars would “strive to meet the City Council’s goal to protect neighborhoods in a manner that is sensitive to the needs of the homeless.”

According to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, roughly 5,000 residents are sleeping in cars at any given moment throughout the city.

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Los Angeles Seeks to Ban Homeless People from Sleeping in Cars And RV’s (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2015 OP

If they'd simply stop being homeless, this would not be an issue. Glassunion Apr 2015 #1

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges. . . Journeyman Apr 2015 #2

Good one! That's a keeper. Thanks. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #4

it is great, but leaves out reality. The rich don't need to sleep under bridges, beg or steal bread. freshwest Apr 2015 #5

That is the point of the quote. KamaAina Apr 2015 #9

I figured that when I read it years ago, but cluelessness has always existed. EOM. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #10

Criminal, compassion lacking city councilers. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #3

Well of course, they are all relatively wealthy AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #6

A car is not a public place. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2015 #7

i'm sure. People are mad they paid 1.2 Mil for a rundown 800 sq foot shack, if Joe Blow Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #8

They could probably provide safe housing for less than it costs to harass the homeless. hunter Apr 2015 #11

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)

1. If they'd simply stop being homeless, this would not be an issue.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:54 PM

Apr 2015

Of course it is an excellent way to tap into that giant revenue bucket that is homelessness. 5,000 homeless... Wow! That's like tens of dollars.

Dear Los Angeles,

Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw.

Sincerely,
Like everyone else.

Journeyman

(15,042 posts)

2. "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges. . .

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:20 PM

Apr 2015

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

~Anatole France (1894)

Zorra

(27,670 posts)

4. Good one! That's a keeper. Thanks. nt

Reply to Journeyman (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:36 PM

Apr 2015

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

5. it is great, but leaves out reality. The rich don't need to sleep under bridges, beg or steal bread.

Reply to Journeyman (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:34 AM

Apr 2015

They already have those things in excess. I'd believed this was satire, but don't have the time to research to prove so.

The issue, is not homelessnees, but houselessness. Where I grew up, the mayor set aside public land for the houseless to sleep in tents until public housing was built is the Depression.

That is not happening enough now. JMHO.

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)

9. That is the point of the quote.

Reply to freshwest (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:56 PM

Apr 2015

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

10. I figured that when I read it years ago, but cluelessness has always existed. EOM. n/t

Reply to KamaAina (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:03 PM

Apr 2015

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

3. Criminal, compassion lacking city councilers.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:22 PM

Apr 2015

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)

6. Well of course, they are all relatively wealthy

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:53 AM

Apr 2015

Los Angeles' city council members make $181,000 a a year.

http://www.dailynews.com/government-and-politics/20131209/los-angeles-city-council-members-get-pay-raise

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)

7. A car is not a public place.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:02 AM

Apr 2015

Several decades ago, people who were drunk in their cars were arrested for being drunk in public. Those cases were thrown out because a car is not a public place. I doubt this is gonna fly. However, with the current crackdown on homeless people, it may well stand.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)

8. i'm sure. People are mad they paid 1.2 Mil for a rundown 800 sq foot shack, if Joe Blow

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:19 AM

Apr 2015

Can sleep in his Eldorado on the street out front, for free.

hunter

(38,337 posts)

11. They could probably provide safe housing for less than it costs to harass the homeless.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:10 PM

Apr 2015

But it seems our society cannot exist without scapegoats.

The unfortunate people living in the worst sorts of poverty, often because they are unemployable for mental health, addiction, or other medical issues, are the easiest scapegoats.

Rich or poor, many people seem to need "bad lazy and crazy" people around before they can accept as "good" their own miserable existence

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