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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:46 PM Apr 2015

The jury will let the South Carolina cop killer go. Video evidence doesn't matter.

See Rodney King, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice etc....it doesn't matter.

Eric Garner was literally choked to death on camera and the killer cop walked. The person who shot the video actually ended up in jail and he was fed rat poison by the prison officials.

Video evidence is meaningless when the system is all fucked up.

This is why people in other countries laugh when they hear Americans say our country is about liberty and freedom.

Bush had the nerve to say the terrorists hate us for our freedom.

It's bullshit.

This is not a free society, especially if you're black.

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The jury will let the South Carolina cop killer go. Video evidence doesn't matter. (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 OP
You are so right Cali.. SummerSnow Apr 2015 #1
He's already charged SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #4
And fired. This is one bad cop who won't escape. randome Apr 2015 #9
That's when a Civil Rights petition should be filed. That is a federal crime. It's worked libdem4life Apr 2015 #2
Charges have been filed SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #5
I disagree. Read all the other events that can't get a Grand Jury, or the libdem4life Apr 2015 #11
Other events, not matter how badly handled SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2015 #15
The reason this has gone on for so long, especially in the State's Rights libdem4life Apr 2015 #46
yes, I agree... Blue_Roses Apr 2015 #35
I have read a article SummerSnow Apr 2015 #12
the President HAS been speaking out--ALOT about Blue_Roses Apr 2015 #38
The black president is rich - hence white, the black AG is rich - hence white whatever black leaders LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #26
with all due respect Blue_Roses Apr 2015 #39
We've got a cop going to trial in July here cwydro Apr 2015 #3
It's very difficult to convict a cop Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #6
People love cops, think they are heroes. Raised to respect them. Hate convicting them. nt Logical Apr 2015 #8
The largest theft in my county Mnpaul Apr 2015 #18
The cop will say the man threatened to kill citizens before he ran off. Had to shoot him. nt Logical Apr 2015 #7
They only have to find one yahoo racist. In SC, that'll be easy. Hoyt Apr 2015 #10
Oh yeah, cwydro Apr 2015 #13
I'm just down the road. Your eyes aren't open if you don't think there are a lot of mean racist Hoyt Apr 2015 #19
There are racists everywhere. cwydro Apr 2015 #20
The prejudice is earned, here and there. Sorry. Hoyt Apr 2015 #22
Nope. cwydro Apr 2015 #28
I'm in NC cwydro Apr 2015 #21
You can tolerate racists, not me. They are still ruining our country. Hoyt Apr 2015 #24
So sorry you know people like that. cwydro Apr 2015 #27
Lindsey Graham is one. Hoyt Apr 2015 #30
Sure would agree on that. cwydro Apr 2015 #31
I'm in Georgia, we deserve every bit of south-hate. I don't take it personally because that's not me Hoyt Apr 2015 #32
No we do not. cwydro Apr 2015 #33
They don't even need a racist. NutmegYankee Apr 2015 #14
Coastal South will surprise you. aikoaiko Apr 2015 #16
It's nothing but cold blooded murder. TheProgressive Apr 2015 #17
I take it your purpose was just to vent? brooklynite Apr 2015 #23
I think Ferguson and Staten Island are Nevernose Apr 2015 #29
The point is obvious, there should never be a single one. Ever. Rex Apr 2015 #37
This looks pretty clear-cut, but, yeah, I'll believe it when they read that verdict. Not before. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #25
I made a post last night saying the same thing workinclasszero Apr 2015 #34
Put me on record as politely disagreeing. This guy goes to prison for the rest of his useful life. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #36
Kelly Thomas damnedifIknow Apr 2015 #40
I don't think it will go to trial... Blue_Roses Apr 2015 #41
I bet u are right /nt workinclasszero Apr 2015 #44
This isnt LA, San Francisco, Chicago, NYC or DC where cops are almost never charged, let alone... 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #42
You tell it like it is. craigmatic Apr 2015 #43
I have some evidence that you're too pessimistic. Jim Lane Apr 2015 #45

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
1. You are so right Cali..
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:52 PM
Apr 2015

I have told people not to rejoice or have hope there is video evidence of what happened. It should convict him but I feel it wont. He was charged with murder, not convicted of murder , people should remember that. And let's not forget the Grand Jury, they may not even let it go to trial.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. And fired. This is one bad cop who won't escape.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. That's when a Civil Rights petition should be filed. That is a federal crime. It's worked
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:03 PM
Apr 2015

before? I am stunned by the SILENCE of the Black Community (perhaps it is the MSM coverage), the Black Attorney General or the incoming AG, the Black President, the Black Caucus, etc. I'm sorry, but it seems that "political fortunes" are still affected by standing with Black Lives Matter.

I am praying someone can show me what I'm missing.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
5. Charges have been filed
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:10 PM
Apr 2015

What should the AG, the incoming AG, the President, the Black Caucus or anyone else do? Charges are filed, and he'll be tried. If he's found not guilty, the federal government always has the option of seeking civil rights charges. But until that happens, they're right to stay out of it, IMO.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. I disagree. Read all the other events that can't get a Grand Jury, or the
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:23 PM
Apr 2015

cop just gets off. This is unique in that there was a video that cannot in any way, shape or form be dismissed. Suddenly it has the immense power of the 24/7 MSM.

There are numerous racist murders that didn't get this publicity...that weren't fortunate enough to have a brave man take the video AND come forward. We all know that's the only thing that made this different. The statistics are there...they don't lie.

I've been reading about all the others, just recently, some who themselves went to jail and others, just Oh Well. Perhaps they did not have the social savvy to hire a high-priced attorney who would work pro bono? Remember, the first attorney who was going to represent the cop quit...after the video. That was likely the time that another high-priced attorney connected with the family.

It's time for whites and black to stand up with the Black Lives Matter. we still have vacuum of official lassiez faire.

That's what I'm talking about. We certainly don't need a video to convince a jury of a black man murdering a white man.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
15. Other events, not matter how badly handled
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:29 PM
Apr 2015

have nothing to do with THIS event.

What exactly do you believe the AG, President, etc., should be doing about this case?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
46. The reason this has gone on for so long, especially in the State's Rights
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:40 PM
Apr 2015

South, which made slavery very hard to get rid of and needed an
federal Amendment, and we're still not there. Now, since they can't make them work for room and board, and people can now film and the public frowns on the pointy hats, they just shoot them.

What do I think? Any murder by any officer of a minority should be submitted to a Civilian Review Board, as well as the cronies locally. I'm not smart enough to figure out a program, but it's got to be at the federal level...where folks aren't beholden to their "betters" or superiors.

Body and dash cameras may work, but they "don't work" a lot, or footage just goes missing.

We have to integrate the police forces...just like we did schools. And just because there is a black or two on a force or a woman or two, they do not make it there without joining the "fraternity". Notice the 2nd cop was black...he didn't turn the murderer in. That's what the Fraternity does and does not do.

And the article about the firefighters sodomizing a recruit, they had the woman film it.

They are all about one thing ... power over another. Be it racial, gender, socioeconomic or sexual preference. Right now white cops killing black men is being shown to be endemic...justice only with a cell phone.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
26. The black president is rich - hence white, the black AG is rich - hence white whatever black leaders
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:48 PM
Apr 2015

there are will be wealthy hence white.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. We've got a cop going to trial in July here
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:05 PM
Apr 2015

in Charlotte.

White cop, dead unarmed black man.

I'm hoping these cops face penalties

At any rate, they've both been fired.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,335 posts)
6. It's very difficult to convict a cop
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:10 PM
Apr 2015

In my town a police officer faced murder charges for killing a white man at a traffic stop. He was fired from the police force but acquitted when the case went to trial.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
18. The largest theft in my county
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:48 PM
Apr 2015

Occurred at the Sheriff's office. One lowlife Deputy stole the DARE funds, stole prisoner's money/other funds and got away with about $400,000. His prosecutor buddies gave him probation and partial restitution. The feds stepped in a sent him to a prison work farm for 15 years.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Oh yeah,
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:26 PM
Apr 2015

we backwoods folks down heah...we all dumb as rocks and ever las one of us hates them black folks.

Going to add the sarcasm thingie since I doubt that will be understood.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. I'm just down the road. Your eyes aren't open if you don't think there are a lot of mean racist
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:14 PM
Apr 2015

people in SC. Worse, they don't even try to hide it.

Who do you think elects the racist government officials in SC and my state?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. There are racists everywhere.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:18 PM
Apr 2015

I'm sick and damn tired of this regional prejudice that is so accepted here on DU.

Apparently, prejudice and generalization are just fine depending at whom it's directed.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
24. You can tolerate racists, not me. They are still ruining our country.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:35 PM
Apr 2015

I get not everyone in SC, NC, GA, AL, MS, etc., are racists -God bless them - but a whole lot are. I see no reason to overlook their hatred.

I grew up with that crud, including the most vile racists who had the gall to claim they weren't. And they still claim they aren't, although they talk about Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, etc., as if they were dirt.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. Sure would agree on that.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:15 PM
Apr 2015

Again, I'm in NC.

Lindsey Graham is a scum imo.

But I don't know him personally. Thank God.

Jesse Helms, Franklin Graham...oh the list is long.

But these cretins do not only exist in the south.

You wanna go on with your south-hate, you go.

I hate regional slurs.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. I'm in Georgia, we deserve every bit of south-hate. I don't take it personally because that's not me
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:18 PM
Apr 2015

But it is the majority here. NC is becoming home for a lot of haters too. Hope you recognize it sonedaym

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
33. No we do not.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:32 PM
Apr 2015

Back in the 70's, I was in the first group of forced busing.

Charlotte and Boston were the "pilot projects".

Charlotte integrated with no problems. White Boston thugs attacked school buses full of black children. There were riots. That was the NORTH.

Get a grip. Move out of the south if you hate it so much.

The south has black mayors, governors and politicians in every part of government. I've noticed not so much in the north.

Must be awful for you to live somewhere you hate and where you know so many horrid people. Certainly sounds like you have lots of not so nice contacts. Gah. I would hate that.

I grew up in NC. I've lived here and loved blacks and whites all my life.

Again, I am so sorry for the fact that you live a life with such nasty people. But, I've learned in my many years of life - that generally you find what you look for.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
14. They don't even need a racist.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:28 PM
Apr 2015

There are many people with authoritarian viewpoints who hold cops as "untouchable".

brooklynite

(94,808 posts)
23. I take it your purpose was just to vent?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:34 PM
Apr 2015

Doesn't seem to be much point in arguing that brushing every jurisdiction with the results in Ferguson or Staten Island might be stretching things a bit...

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
29. I think Ferguson and Staten Island are
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:06 PM
Apr 2015

... the rule, and not the exception. I guess we'll have to disagree on the state of Justice in America.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
37. The point is obvious, there should never be a single one. Ever.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:14 PM
Apr 2015

What pray tell is there to argue about? You going against history repeating itself? Good luck.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
25. This looks pretty clear-cut, but, yeah, I'll believe it when they read that verdict. Not before.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 09:44 PM
Apr 2015

I've seen too many killer cops walk.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. I made a post last night saying the same thing
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:08 PM
Apr 2015

Eric Gardner was killed in full view of a camera. Where are his police killers now? Free as birds.

Trayvons killer? Free as a bird.

I bet this cop gets away with it too. I hate it it is so evil but I won't believe a white cop with a pregnant wife is gonna do life in prison or get the death penalty for shooting a black man in the back in SC.

I hope lm wrong but the facts say otherwise.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
36. Put me on record as politely disagreeing. This guy goes to prison for the rest of his useful life.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:13 PM
Apr 2015

Just a feeling I have. Maybe, just maybe, the tide is about to turn.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
41. I don't think it will go to trial...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:24 PM
Apr 2015

I think he will plea-bargain. The evidence is too strong and a jury would see it that way too.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
42. This isnt LA, San Francisco, Chicago, NYC or DC where cops are almost never charged, let alone...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:26 PM
Apr 2015

convicted.

I have faith in South Carolina. I think the people there have a strong sense of right and wrong and they will do the right thing here.

This will make the 2nd police officer immediately fired and put on trial for shooting an unarmed person in South Carolina, you'll never see that in LA or NYC sad to say.

The first was Sean Groubert

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
45. I have some evidence that you're too pessimistic.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:56 AM
Apr 2015

My evidence is that I fired up my lurker account at Free Republic to dip briefly into the extreme right's thoughts on the subject. Happily, even among those RWNJ's (some of whom think Fox News is too liberal), there seems to be a majority condemning the police officer.

A few samples:

"Officer’s life clearly not threatened. No doubt it was murder."

"Sharpton and friends are going to go nuts on this one.It appears that they would be justified,for once."

"We don’t side with scum who shoot people in the back when their own life isn’t being threatened. The cop is a real criminal in this situation. I say turn the cop loose in full uniform with badge and no gun in Ferguson." (Credit jsanders2001 for that creative suggestion, which I think many DUers could go along with.)

"I’m surprised they did not shoot the guy with the camera."

Now, I'm not saying that all the Freepers see reason on this. Some are muttering that the video may have been edited in some unspecified manner. One comments, "The jury is still out on this incident ......" but that draws a reply: "Must be a pretty stupid jury...this was clearly murder. Some people simply shouldn’t be cops."

These are people who, almost unanimously, were perfectly OK with the killings of Michael Brown and Eric Garner. Even they punch out when they see that video. They're not prospective jurors, but based on their reactions, I'm going to predict that this cop will do significant time, either on a jury verdict or a plea bargain.

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