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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:39 AM Apr 2015

Report: Dems Seeking Payback Against Sestak In PA Senate Race

Top Democrats are encouraging former Pennsylvania state Rep. Josh Shapiro (D) to run for Senate as an alternative to former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA), who has already announced his candidacy.

The Associated Press reported on Friday citing "two people familiar the discussions" that top Democratic leaders in the senate including Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Jon Tester (D-MT) have already spoken with Shapiro.

If Shapiro (pictured) did decide to run for Senate, it would set up a potentially bloody primary battle for the Democratic nomination to face Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) in the general election.

In 2010 Sestak defied President Barack Obama and a number of other top Democratic leaders when he ran against —and defeated— then-Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) in the Democratic primary. Sestak would go on to lose to Toomey in the general election.

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Report: Dems Seeking Payback Against Sestak In PA Senate Race (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 OP
Schumer is a danger to the Democratic Party. n/t earthside Apr 2015 #1
Specter became a Democrat? OnyxCollie Apr 2015 #2
I worked Sestak's campaign in '06. Joe was abandoned by the DNC/DSCC in '10, so the GOP won PA. leveymg Apr 2015 #3
There's nothing in the article that says he was abandoned Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #5
Here's the FEC data: Sestak received only $273 from Party Committees in the 2010 general leveymg Apr 2015 #8
There is nothing in this article that says this is payback for 2010... brooklynite Apr 2015 #4
What other conclusion can be fairly drawn from events and the numbers? $273 from party committees? leveymg Apr 2015 #9
Numbers like polling that says he'll lose? brooklynite Apr 2015 #10
Is that you, Rahm? Thanks again leveymg Apr 2015 #13
So they are pissed off at him for defeating a republican? betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #6
...and then losing. brooklynite Apr 2015 #11
The election was close. Sestak lost because he was outspent by Toomey in an election cycle leveymg Apr 2015 #14
Current polling has him losing by worse... brooklynite Apr 2015 #15
For such a Dem party powerhouse such as yourself Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #16
I participate here because I enjoy politics... brooklynite Apr 2015 #17
Clear pattern: Clintonites occupy key party posts, reward their friends, move the Dems to the Right. leveymg Apr 2015 #18
Chuck Schumer is a total DICK!!!! nothing progressive about this guy bigdarryl Apr 2015 #7
I fucking hate Third Way, corporate manipulations of our party Oilwellian Apr 2015 #12

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. I worked Sestak's campaign in '06. Joe was abandoned by the DNC/DSCC in '10, so the GOP won PA.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:12 AM
Apr 2015

According to this source, Rahm Emanuel was behind the heave-hoe of Joe Sestak by the party leadership that led to the loss of that Senate seat. He's viewed as a threat to the Clinton dynasty machine: http://swampland.time.com/2010/05/28/bubba-did-it/

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. Here's the FEC data: Sestak received only $273 from Party Committees in the 2010 general
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:03 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:09 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=C00419291&tabIndex=1

SESTAK 2010


From: 01/01/2009 To: 11/22/2010
I. RECEIPTS
Itemized Individual Contributions $1,108,821
Unitemized Individual Contributions $99,473
Total Individual Contributions $1,208,294
Party Committees Contributions $273
Other Committees Contributions $405,950
Candidate Contributions $0
TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS $1,614,517
Transfers from Authorized Committees $0
Candidate Loans $0
Other Loans $0
TOTAL LOANS $0
Offsets to Operating Expenditures $0
Other Receipts $36,664
TOTAL RECEIPTS $1,651,181
II. DISBURSEMENTS
Operating Expenditures $352,159
Transfers To Authorized Committees $4,223,982
Candidate Loan Repayments $0
Other Loan Repayments $0
TOTAL LOAN REPAYMENTS $0
Individual Refunds $7,180
Political Party Refunds $0
Other Committee Refunds $0
TOTAL CONTRIBUTION REFUNDS $7,180
Other Disbursements $5,000
TOTAL DISBURSEMENTS $4,588,322
III. CASH SUMMARY
Beginning Cash On Hand $2,937,140
Ending Cash On Hand $0
Net Contributions $1,607,337
Net Operating Expenditures $352,159
Debts/Loans Owed By $0
Debts/Loans Owed To $0

Receipts
Itemized IndividualContributionsUnitemized IndividualContributionsOther ReceiptsOther CommitteesContributionsOther24.6%67.2%
Task money
Itemized Individual Contributions $1,108,821
Party Committees Contributions $273
Unitemized Individual Contributions $99,473
Other Receipts $36,664
Other Committees Contributions $405,950
Disbursements
Individual RefundsOperating ExpendituresTransfers To AuthorizedCommitteesOther92.1%
Task money
Individual Refunds $7,180
Operating Expenditures $352,159
Other Disbursements $5,000
Transfers To Authorized Committees $4,223,982




Compared to $1.17 million that went to Specter during the same period through 12/31/09. Sestak also received far less than average party contributions -- $32K --during the six year period leading up to the general.

Six Year Financial Summary for 2010 Senate Campaigns Through December 31, 2009
Individual Non Party
Candidate Receipts Contributions Contributions

PENNSYLVANIA
Arlen Specter Dem
2004 Inc
2005-2006 $707,096 $480,030 $198,499
2007-2008 $7,168,728 $5,712,676 $1,360,834
2009-2010 $5,990,170 $3,993,566 $1,177,342
William Kortz Dem
2009-2010 Chl $16,832 $10,332 $0
Joseph Sestak Dem
2009-2010 Chl $1,359,827 $1,320,815 $32,357
Joseph Torsella Dem
2009-2010 Chl $620,348 $610,633 $3,000
Peg Luksik Rep
2009-2010 Chl $467,334 $452,718 $8,616
Patrick Toomey Rep
2009-2010 Chl $4,868,002 $4,536,863 $260,678



http://www.fec.gov/disclosure/partySummary.do

DSCC v NRSC
$129 million vs $112 million

DNC v RNC
$224 million v $211 million


Overall Fundraising for 2010 campaign

Fundraising

Candidate (party) Receipts Disbursements Cash on hand Debt
Pat Toomey (R) $14,818,231 $12,743,824 $2,074,406 $53,000
Joe Sestak (D) $11,842,844 $10,185,073 $1,657,769 $0
Source: Federal Election Commission[153]

brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
4. There is nothing in this article that says this is payback for 2010...
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:17 AM
Apr 2015

There is reasonable concern, supported by early polling, that Sestak can't pull out a win that would be essential for a Democratic return to control of the Senate.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. What other conclusion can be fairly drawn from events and the numbers? $273 from party committees?
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:52 PM
Apr 2015

See above

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
13. Is that you, Rahm? Thanks again
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:49 PM
Apr 2015

for helping move the Democrats and Congress to the Right by not helping progressives or anyone who might threaten the Clinton Dynasty.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
6. So they are pissed off at him for defeating a republican?
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:17 PM
Apr 2015

Progressives must do everything they can to protect Sestak. They don't get to make us elect republicans.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
14. The election was close. Sestak lost because he was outspent by Toomey in an election cycle
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:53 PM
Apr 2015

where Democrats in general were better supported than their GOP rivals. Joe Sestak got virtually no Party money. Who made that decision at a time when Sestak started with a lead in the polls?

brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
15. Current polling has him losing by worse...
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:56 PM
Apr 2015

I'm one of the people he's going to come to for money, and I need convincing at this point. I've spoken to Rendell, who doesn't think there's an alternative (at least there wasn't back in December), but I'll wait to see what develops.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
16. For such a Dem party powerhouse such as yourself
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:02 PM
Apr 2015

you sure spend an awful lot of time on an internet messageboard (one that is constantly belittled by its members as having no sway). What? Did your neighbors get bored of you claiming to be rich?

brooklynite

(94,803 posts)
17. I participate here because I enjoy politics...
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:17 PM
Apr 2015

...and I'm not involved in politics for "sway" (other than broad based Democratic principles). It's not my job (nor my wive's), but where we spend our free time.

And what does my personal situation have to do with the prospect of Joe Sestak winning next year? (FWIW - once of the candidates we supported in 2010)

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
18. Clear pattern: Clintonites occupy key party posts, reward their friends, move the Dems to the Right.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 03:18 PM
Apr 2015

By punishing progressives and rivals, the center-right Clintonite Democrats who control the DNC and DSCC lose elections no matter how much money gets raised at the national level.

Sestak is a good example of how this works - party funds aren't being fairly shared, even to candidates who started ahead in the polls. The end result is that control over both houses of Congress go to the GOP, and gov't in general moves rightward.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
12. I fucking hate Third Way, corporate manipulations of our party
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 02:30 PM
Apr 2015

I hold them largely responsible for Toomey as Senator.

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