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http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/04/police-just-17-year-old-in-the-back/Police officials confirmed that Justus was shot in the back.
Witnesses suggest that police planted a gun on Justus, as they all say that he was completely unarmed at the time he was fleeing officers and when they shot him. Only after the fact did a gun magically appear at the crime scene.
Witnesses are unanimous in their agreement on this. There is not one person who saw the fatal shooting or the foot pursuit who claims that Justus was armed.
You can't imagine what Justus looked like, can you?
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Paralyzing fear and a constant terror of being killed for nothing. Like every good bye could be the last, all so unjust. I'm surprised there's so little derangement among those being targeted.
It keeps one down in survival mode, just as it's intended to do. It akes too many energy, keeps one at the lower level in the pyramid of needs and destroys the gifts their creativity could have given to themselves, their families and all the rest of us.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)^
I've run out of words.
calimary
(81,546 posts)It's just bewildering!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Just....
.....
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Bonx
(2,079 posts)"Police have said Howell was involved in a scuffle while trying to steal a handgun during a street sale. Authorities said Tramond Peet, 18, of Lindenhurst intended to sell a gun to Howell near Gilead Avenue in Zion. During the exchange, a fight broke out between Howell and Peet, and a shot was fired, police said.
A neighbor who heard the gunshot and witnessed the fighting called police, authorities said. When officers arrived on the scene, Howell ran and was shot sometime later.
Zoladz confirmed Peet, who was arrested on weapons charges in the case, is a student at Grayslake North but said she could not provide additional details.
Perlini said relatives of Howell also attend Grayslake North.
Peet has been charged with two counts of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon and is in Lake County jail on $15,000 bail."
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150409/news/150408522/
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Bonx
(2,079 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Bonx
(2,079 posts)Sorry, but your OP was a blog post. I find actual news articles better for discerning facts.
Why so defensive and accusatory ?
bl968
(360 posts)Hate to say it but most news organizations will simply republish what the police give them as gospel. So by it's self that's not a definitive statement.
Bonx
(2,079 posts)even though it is from a news source, and not the unedited musings of some person somewhere.
840high
(17,196 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)want to know the whole story>
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Bonx
(2,079 posts)I guess in the world of blog reporting that is a possibility.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)If you were a cop responding to a call about a fight with a shot fired, you might presume that firearms were involved.
I'm not saying this is a justified shooting, just pointing out that there is reason for posting a bit more background.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)before opening fire.
If the Peet kid has been charged with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon and the report says he TRIED to sell Howell a gun, but Howell TRIED to steal it instead, then why did they shoot Howell whom the report admits was not armed?
I'm surprised the Peet kid wasn't killed. There must have been to many witness's when the cop's found him.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... so what are their justifications for shooting him in the back!?1?
840high
(17,196 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the criminals they are supposed to protect the public from.
RIP to yet another young AA teenager, dead at the hands of the police.
2naSalit
(86,868 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)these parts:
Would society actually be safer net-net with no police force (as currently constituted)?
Sure, criminals and predators would more easily prey upon the vulnerable. But offenses like Walking While Black, Driving While Black and Living While Black would stop being capital offenses.
I'm posting sarcastically (somewhat), but I think it's a valid question. If you're rich and white, the police have your back. If you're poor and black, the police shoot you in the back.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)You see, even if he punched the cop straight in the face
STILL YOU DONT shoot them in the back, or at all
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)any cop can and will and does kill anybody they want, anytime they want, anywhere they want for any reason they want
without video they just have to say their feared for their life
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)their guns and other weapons warm and well-oiled, so the police here have to resort to shooting or choking to death white folk who are mentally challenged, 15 year old kids, 80+ year old men, and people with no money. Probably if we didn't have those they would import baby seals or something.
This town isn't quite as white as the Whitopia across the border, Coeur d'Alene, but there was a story last year about a black kid coming home depressed because he was the only black kid in the class. Again this year.
I have a certain advantage, in being 60 (oops, 61 now) and looking like a retired, white insurance agent. All the pale faces think I think like they do.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)They ALL know that murdering African American Males is a hot issue in the Media,
and they STILL keep doing it.
It is almost like those kids on YouTube hurting themselves in idiotic (and life threatening) ways, and then posting their stupidity to the internet.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)does not deter.
What we now know beyond a shadow of a doubt: Ferguson IS NOT an isolated case.
Stuart G
(38,453 posts)Here is the headline on the above story...
"Teen killed in police shooting in Zion had just stolen gun, police say"
The link above is from the Chicago Tribune....April 6...
...a more complete story if you wish to read...(no, I do not know if the Tribune story is more accurate.)
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Not a comment at you, just on the article. It was sick to read.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... looks like another Scott shooting
yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)After they have been over there killing terrorist and being called heroes for it.
It is a logical conclusion that when they become cops they will take the same attitude toward people that don't look white because that was their targets in Iraq.
IMO the most stupid thing we ever did was make an all volunteer military...it has become a magnet for people who like killing people...especially sense we call them heroes for it.
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)other than being black, the young man's crime was.........
wait for it..........
wait for it..........
wait for it..........
wait for it..........
wait for it.............
WALKING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET
Channel 2's Liz Artz spoke with Atlanta Police Chief George Turner after officers shot a 22-year-old man in southwest Atlanta.
Around 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday, police officers saw 22-year-old Yuric Ussery walking in the middle of McDaniel Street.
Police say Ussery immediately ran when approached by officers.
During the chase, police say Ussery produced a handgun and pointed it at officers.
Officers opened fire on Ussery, but investigators have not been able to determine how many shots were fired.
Channel 2's Liz Artz spoke with Ussery's brother who says they were on the phone together and police may have mistaken the cell phone for a gun.
"He didn't pull out no gun. He was reaching for a phone. He answered the phone," Chvotkin Ussery said.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/police-identify-man-shot-officer-southwest-atlanta/nkqcW/
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)The student, Andre Burgess, said he was walking down 138th Street in Laurelton, Queens, about 7 P.M. on Thursday when he passed a car full of undercover law enforcement agents who were searching for a fugitive drug dealer.
According to law-enforcement officials, a Federal agent inside the car saw the silver wrapper of the Three Musketeers bar that Mr. Burgess was carrying and mistook it for the glint of a pistol.
My heart bleeds.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)radhika
(1,008 posts)Every day, another one. Sick solidarity?
In our faces, as if staying 'we will not be stopped'.
barbtries
(28,815 posts)like there's some secret reward or something. it just goes on and on.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Sorry cops, never cry wolf.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Flatpicker
(894 posts)What do you do except start posting cameras everywhere and watch the watchmen.
Seems that video is the only thing that works in punishing after the fact.
flvegan
(64,419 posts)Posters belittle change by doing this.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)flvegan
(64,419 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)The odd thing is, Republican Stepdad's very Blue daughter is a vegan who lives in Fla. Go figure.
flvegan
(64,419 posts)Changes nothing.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)They* are spreading fear and terror of these criminals in uniform so the people cower.
* They = Billionaire Bigot Society
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)"Like flies to wanton boys are we to the cops;
They kill us for their sport."
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Stop Killing.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts).
marym625
(17,997 posts)It just has to.
shebolleth
(38 posts)During the first days after the Michael Brown shooting. Many turned out to be unreliable as declared by the DOJ. We'll see.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Reports we now know came from a PD with racist/corrupt cops running it. We also now know coroners will lie to cover for cops. Yes indeed we shall see.
shebolleth
(38 posts)They didn't base their work on police interviews alone.
Rex
(65,616 posts)So they get to work with what is given to them to form an opinion. If Holder had been the DA and the DoJ was invovled in getting a GJ trial...things might have been completely different.
We will never know.