Seems like most of the links in this guy's article go back to himself, with no supporting data.

One small bit of data he misses is that the US does over 2.5 TRILLION in exports annually, and that makes us third largest exporter on the planet--- behind China and the EU.

What about those exports? Do we just watch them disappear as jobs magically reappear because we will suddenly stop buying Chinese and Korean stuff?

I remember the same bullshit about Japan taking over the world but people still bought Toyotas and Nikons, and now they're making Toyotas here and Sony's world HQ is in Mahwah, NJ.

Trade exists, and even if we don't sign the TPP China will still sell stuff around the world, and to us, and we have to deal with it. This is one way of dealing with it.

Just stop whining that the TPP is the end of the world and deal with it.

essentially setting up a trade bloc of everyone else on the Pacific besides China and Korea to balance the trading power of China and Korea.

Just a reaction to evolving trade patterns.

But then with the exception of leaks, it's mostly secret so what can we really presume to know?

with or without the TPP.

Nobody says a deficit is a good thing, or that this will solve it, but we insist on buying stuff made elsewhere.

Tried buying a US made camera or DVD player?

Could Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei increase our exports by mega-billions or increase our deficits by mega-billions?

Aren't our trade deals suppose to help America and lower or solve our deficits? Why would the American people get involved with a trade deal that worsens our financial woes?

Hasn't our short-term trade deal with Korea resulted in further deficits?

why pass Fast Track?

don't you have to talk their lingo to be understood?

But, just shut about it will ya?

Seems to be the gist of your post.

The TPP apparently deals with trade issues in 5 of the 29 chapters, and it apparently deals with MANY different industries and areas of our lives. I don't think we're going to shut up and deal with it just yet.

Don't worry though. The TPP will probably pass, and then you can mock, laugh, and ridicule those of us who are spending energy trying to defeat it.

I notice they always try to use vague abstractions that sound reasonable in theory but are harmful in practice.

I notice they at first try to BS us by claiming an increase in exports will shrink or eliminate the trade deficit; then when they're called on such pollyannic nonsense, they, with absolutely no demur glibly say the trade deficit doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter, why the sanguinity in the first place?

Trade talk is for the rich not us. I do not care if we double trade, if every other American lives in a cardboard box. Who fucking cares? So, the rich get richer and we are supposed to party. My slave owners are richer than your slave owners so I got you. What the fuck is this pablum.