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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:47 PM Apr 2015

Hillary Clinton’s Announcement As Told By 11 Front Pages From Around The World

DENMARK


FRANCE


GERMANY


ISRAEL


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Interesting - everywhere else she's the top headline, above the fold. In Israel, she gets a 1 in.² photo, less coverage than a winter snow scene. Now, what does that mean?

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Hillary Clinton’s Announcement As Told By 11 Front Pages From Around The World (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
oy imagine what the American tabloids are planning ? olddots Apr 2015 #1
Nov. 8, 2016 can't come fast enough. Between now and then? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
That they picked a right-wing Israeli paper? KamaAina Apr 2015 #3
Ya think? I can't read Hebrew, and so don't even know what paper it is. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4
Also interesting, she is still above the fold in the Israeli paper and... Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #5
I wasn't being sarcastic or snarky. I really wonder what the positioning Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #6
Then one could also wonder why you chose that particular headline. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #7
I could only use four extracts, that being the 'legal limit'. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #9
Exactly...an editorial decision. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #11
Sorry, didn't get as far as 'La Stampa' before I reached my limit of four. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #17
Hmmm.... Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #19
I see the pic is about 5 X 7. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #21
Below the fold, with NO story. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #22
Haaretz (progressive Israelis) have a big story - TBF Apr 2015 #8
This was the ISRAEL entry in the Buzz Feed piece. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
The English version Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #13
Good for the English-language edition. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #14
I responded to that post. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #16
Thanks for responding so copiously. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #18
Are you surprised by the lack of coverage or picture placements of others? Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #20
Of what 'others' are you speaking? Buzz Feed's selection or newseum in general? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #24
The newseum in general. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #25
I repeat, I only viewed the newseum selection AFTER posting the pics Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #27
How about you answer the question? Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #28
.../... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #31
I didn't pull from Buzz Feed - went straight to Haaretz TBF Apr 2015 #23
Neither do I, TBF. I posted some pics from Buzz Feed Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #26
I'm surprised the Israeli paper didn't photoshop her out of her picture... brooklynite Apr 2015 #12
Of course, you are. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #15
Any smaller and you would've needed a magnifying glass! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #30

Behind the Aegis

(54,015 posts)
5. Also interesting, she is still above the fold in the Israeli paper and...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:36 PM
Apr 2015

...her announcement was even front page news in several places. Now what does that mean?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. I wasn't being sarcastic or snarky. I really wonder what the positioning
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:46 PM
Apr 2015

of the story on the page means. Editorial decisions like this aren't made by accident, or just because they happened to have a couple of inches left over in that spot.

Who made the page lay-out decision and why? Interesting 'cultural' difference, let's say.

Behind the Aegis

(54,015 posts)
7. Then one could also wonder why you chose that particular headline.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 01:51 PM
Apr 2015

After all, it was an editorial decision on your part as the Israeli newspaper was not one the first four newspapers shown. Also, the fact you placed it last, then made a comment solely about that newspaper is an "editorial" on your part. The fact you are claiming it is a "cultural" difference is bizarre at best. Do you have any proof the layout of the paper, which by looking the article and picture would be above the fold, was due to cultural differences?

ETA: Ha'aretz is hardly a "right-wing" publication. Then of course, there are all those papers (there are hundreds throughout the world) where Clinton didn't even make the front page. What do you think that means?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. I could only use four extracts, that being the 'legal limit'.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:01 PM
Apr 2015

Wanted a cross-section of languages--thus, Danish, German, and of course French, which I speak. Israel came last because it was last in the original piece.

I seriously didn't even notice the 'downgrading' of Hillary until I 'previewed' the page.

And, I'd still be interested in your ideas as to why 'non-right-wing' Haaretz did this. Considering Israel and the US's 'special' relationship, I would've thought that such an important announcement would have pride of place.

Behind the Aegis

(54,015 posts)
11. Exactly...an editorial decision.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:05 PM
Apr 2015

Israel wasn't last in the original piece. La Stamapa from Italy was #11. So, again, an editorial decision.

Why don't you contact Ha'aretz? They have English speaking staff. This is nothing more than a version of the "arrow is pointing right" nonsense. Looking for an issue, hell, creating an issue where there is none. If your feeling the "downgrade" is political, then perhaps so is your questioning of it.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
17. Sorry, didn't get as far as 'La Stampa' before I reached my limit of four.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:17 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Mon Apr 13, 2015, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Why don't I contact Haaretz? Would probably get some pre-fab answer from their 'social-media' team, even if I knew who to question.

I wasn't looking to 'create an issue'. Just asking an interesting 'cultrual' question which occurred to me after seeing Haaretz juxtaposed with other languages and papers.

Behind the Aegis

(54,015 posts)
19. Hmmm....
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:22 PM
Apr 2015
"Israel came last because it was last in the original piece."

So, rather than asking, it is better to make your own "pre-fab" answer?

What about this is "cultural?" You keep saying it in quotes but refuse to say what the cultural difference is that you suspect?

Is this also cultural?



Notice the picture is BELOW the fold and it is snarky and the story doesn't appear on the front page, it is on page eight. Also "cultural?"
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. This was the ISRAEL entry in the Buzz Feed piece.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:04 PM
Apr 2015

Glad Hills got better coverage in the English-language edition.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. Thanks for responding so copiously.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:20 PM
Apr 2015

Thanks, I've already had a look at newseum, after the fact and after using Buzz Feed.

Behind the Aegis

(54,015 posts)
25. The newseum in general.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:33 PM
Apr 2015

Clinton didn't even get "top billing" in the excerpts provided by Buzz Feed. Some were only pictures that lead to other stories or other stories came before Clinton's announcement. So, that "cultural" difference you keep going on about; what is it?

Behind the Aegis

(54,015 posts)
28. How about you answer the question?
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:48 PM
Apr 2015

What cultural differences? You seemed to be so concerned...

"Interesting - everywhere else she's the top headline, above the fold. In Israel, she gets a 1 in.² photo, less coverage than a winter snow scene. Now, what does that mean?"

No, everywhere else she is NOT the top headline. Even in your excerpts, only the Israeli paper has an actual story about the announcement on page one, above the fold. As for the winter snow scene, well, in the Middle East it is big news given this type of storm has only happened 3-4 times in the past 50 years; qualifies it as big news and unusual news.

You claimed you chose the Israeli one because it was the last...it wasn't. You claim you could only use 4 photos, as per DU, true, but you "picked and chose" yourself, then only questioned one entry of 11. You claimed the picture was unusual and when advised to contact the English speaking editors, you already decided they would be of no help, so it was better to keep guessing as to their motivations.

You put the axe out there...why?

Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #29)

TBF

(32,111 posts)
23. I didn't pull from Buzz Feed - went straight to Haaretz
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:25 PM
Apr 2015

and it was front-page of their international section.

I don't understand the issue???

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
26. Neither do I, TBF. I posted some pics from Buzz Feed
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:34 PM
Apr 2015

from different languages and countries. Noticed that the pic in the Israeli paper was 1 in.² and commented on that fact.

Go figure! Techy, Techy!

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