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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 04:56 PM Apr 2015

Compulsory abortion for Down’s syndrome foetuses, says UKIP Kent candidate

UKIP = British Tea Party.

http://www.gravesendreporter.co.uk/news/exclusive_compulsory_abortion_for_down_s_syndrome_foetuses_says_ukip_kent_candidate_1_1745952

Geoffrey Clark, who is running in a by-election on Thursday (20) for the Gravesham Rural seat on Kent County Council and the Meopham North seat on Gravesham Borough Council, was labelled ‘abhorrent’ by disability charities and parents.

His ideas, published on his website, state: “Consider compulsory abortion when the foetus is detected as having Downs, Spina Bifida or similar syndrome which, if it is born, will render the child a burden on the state as well as on the family.”

He also wants free euthanasia for the over-80s.

Andrew Diedo, from Dartford, whose 27-year-old son Chris has Down’s syndrome, said Mr Clark’s view was “perhaps born out of fear and ignorance”.


Perhaps?
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Compulsory abortion for Down’s syndrome foetuses, says UKIP Kent candidate (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2015 OP
Wow. China only dreams of such authoritarianism. Coventina Apr 2015 #1
I've been screaming this for years: Ilsa Apr 2015 #2
Another dumb ass who wants to look tough. nt bemildred Apr 2015 #3
Very troubling. I lived in Jefferson WI, home of St Coletta's school HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #4
Awesome! KamaAina Apr 2015 #5
Over the years I grew to know a kid who worked at the local not-franchised hardware who became HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #6
I like your attitude KamaAina Apr 2015 #7
How to otherwise describe persons suffering the consequences of non-disjunction??? HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #8
I'll have to think on that. KamaAina Apr 2015 #9
The good news is that he lost muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #10
It seems the eugenics part of full on fascism is arriving- I mean belt tightening. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #11
"fear and ignorance" is being very generous loyalsister Apr 2015 #12

Ilsa

(61,707 posts)
2. I've been screaming this for years:
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:01 PM
Apr 2015
IF YOU LET THEM HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHEN YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ABORTION, YOU ARE LETTING THEM HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHEN YOU MUST HAVE AN ABORTION.

Only Choice works.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. Very troubling. I lived in Jefferson WI, home of St Coletta's school
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:08 PM
Apr 2015

which cared for Down' syndrome kids, as well as Rosemarie Kennedy.

Because of the "school" Jefferson was enriched with people suffering from the trisomy. Jefferson is known as the "gemutlichkiet city", I think largely because Down's syndrome folks are so indomitably happy.

The range of capacity, from depressingly low to enchantingly high, is something that requires experience to appreciate.

After years out there in small town WI...conservative, unaccepting, blah blah, I can honestly say, living in a community where it's not uncommon to encounter retail clerks with the trisomy, these people ought not be discounted on the basis of the trisomy. Given a chance many of them WILL surprise you and make you wonder what 'normal' means.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. Awesome!
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:11 PM
Apr 2015

I once worked with a woman with Down's. We recruited her away from McDonald's. She had been there for years, but always in the back. They never let her interact with customers. This in an industry where, if you stay for six months and don't have a disability, they make you assistant manager! :wtyf:

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. Over the years I grew to know a kid who worked at the local not-franchised hardware who became
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:17 PM
Apr 2015

the manager of one of the town's few liquor stores.

IF (!!) you are willing to get behind the upfront problems at the interface with these victims of genetics, you'll find out that they include truly wonderful people.

They really -ARE- people: their lives really MUST matter.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. How to otherwise describe persons suffering the consequences of non-disjunction???
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:00 PM
Apr 2015


Victim merely implies a person harmed by an event outside their control.

It's pretty much outside of all the party's control.

What would you prefer?
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. I'll have to think on that.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:16 PM
Apr 2015

But I doubt that most people with Down's would describe themselves as "victims".

muriel_volestrangler

(101,390 posts)
10. The good news is that he lost
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:42 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-20813977

UKIP seems to have said they didn't want him to count as a UKIP councillor if he had been elected; but neither did they expel him from the party. Trying to pretend it didn't happen, really.

appalachiablue

(41,182 posts)
11. It seems the eugenics part of full on fascism is arriving- I mean belt tightening.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

The UKIP candidate must know Lord Freud, the Welfare Minister heard talking about lowering mentally challenged peoples' wages last year, then had to resign.

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