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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:17 PM Apr 2015

Anybody but Hillary? The case for Warren-Webb in 2016.

http://theweek.com/articles/546124/anybody-but-hillary-case-warrenwebb-2016

But there is an alternative, and a damn good one. Two of them, actually: Elizabeth Warren and Jim Webb.

Guys first.

Jim Webb is a genuinely intriguing candidate — a war hero and former secretary of the Navy who actually views our country's militaristic foreign policy with skepticism, a champion of the American working class against globalization and "boardroom liberalism," and a passionate advocate for criminal justice reform. On top of that, he voluntarily retired from the Senate after one term, showing that he's far less enamored of political power than most people who run for the presidency. If he can get people to pay attention to his message, Webb just might succeed in wooing back a large chunk of the white (Scots-Irish) middle class to the Democratic Party.

But he's unlikely to do so on his own. Webb's idiosyncratic policy positions combined with his bristly unwillingness to jump through the right "likability" hoops give him limited appeal at the head of a ticket.

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Hillary the Terrible? But as Elizabeth Warren's running mate? In that role he'd be fantastic.

I almost can't believe I'm arguing in favor of Warren jumping into the race. She's at least a few clicks to my left. Her populist rhetoric makes me uncomfortable. And she's said very little to indicate that she diverges from the bipartisan Washington consensus in favor of endless warfare.

So why do I find myself hoping that she'll run? Because she would actually give Americans a choice.

Since the economic crisis of 2008, Warren's been the country's foremost critic of the excesses of the financial sector and the banking industry. She makes a compelling case in favor of regulating Wall Street more aggressively, and speaks with passion about surging inequality and the dangers of privately held debt (especially student loans). She's dropped hints that she favors a single-payer health-care system — which might make a whole lot of sense if the Rube-Goldberg contraption that is the Affordable Care Act comes crashing down.

Yes, I worry that a government with Warren in the White House and the Republicans in charge of Congress just might grind to a complete halt. But would that be worse than four or eight years of Clintonite triangulation and scandal? I'm not so sure.

As for foreign policy — well, let's just say that given her left-leaning preferences in every other area of policy, I don't fully believe Warren's wan statements in defense of the status quo. I think she's probably given foreign affairs little thought, and she's picking her battles. And anyway, in my dream she'd have Jim Webb around to try and convince her to revisit her conventionally hawkish positions.

Purely on ideology, I'd probably prefer a Webb-Warren ticket. But the reality is that Warren beats Webb on charisma and charm any day, and as regular readers are aware, I care quite a bit about the U.S. electing its first female president. Clinton's ambition to shatter this highest of all glass ceilings will give her huge advantages in the race for the nomination and the presidency. If someone is going to challenge her, it needs to be a woman.
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Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. But what did Webb's hair style look like back in the 90s?
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:23 PM
Apr 2015

Hmmm...I dunno. Look at all that liberal hair!


BUT look at him now! What is up with that conservative haircut! My my...tsk tsk tsk!

Of course I base all my votes on what kind of hair product they use!

dsc

(52,169 posts)
4. Webb is a sexist and a homophobe who worked for Reagan in the 80's
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:30 PM
Apr 2015

It would send the giant message of fuck you to every gay and woman in our party.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
9. You had better learn to like somebody else real damn quick!
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

Because Hillary has already picked out her cabinet members and her coronation will not be postponed!!

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
10. Have you managed to make that case convincingly to Elizabeth Warren?
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:08 PM
Apr 2015

Until and unless that happens, the rest is moot.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
12. I am not sure. Can you throw together a montage of their hairstyles over the past few decades so I
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:12 PM
Apr 2015

can make an educated decision, please?

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