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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEverybody needs to pick a side in politics, right?
Mine is the other side. Way over on the other side.
I don't really care much what Hillary Clinton did with her State Department ?email.
I care that she is a violent authoritarian warmonger who supports bombings, drones, wars of aggression, the DHS, TSA, failed drug war, NSA, Gitmo, torture, bank bonus bailouts, corporatism, violations of human rights abroad and at home.
Watching American politics serves to confirm my views - Cotton, Cruz , McCain and another Bush on one side, Hillary on the other. With progressive squirrels getting their nuts crushed in the middle.
Thank the Goddess I don't have to vote in your elections.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)[font size=3]"I care that she is a violent authoritarian warmonger who supports bombings, drones, wars of aggression, the DHS, TSA, failed drug war, NSA, Gitmo, torture, bank bonus bailouts, corporatism, violations of human rights abroad and at home."[/font size]
Thank you.
We marinate in lying propaganda and willful delusion to deny what our government and our corporate-purchased candidates have really become as a result of the billions in corporate cash corrupting our government. Hillary is not remotely a liberal. It is beyond surreal to even suggest that she is....yet this is the type of blatant, lying, Orwellian delusion that is repeated like a drumbeat to try to make us deny reality itself.
Hillary represents the continued corporate coup of our nation and the deliberate replacement of democracy with secret laws, secret courts, mass surveillance, suppression of dissent, mass propaganda, endless war for profit, and the systematic looting of the lives and futures of millions of human beings for the profit and power of a tiny elite.
Two plus two equals four. No more pretending.
brooklynite
(94,808 posts)Equating Clinton and the Republican field as one and the same tells me pretty much all I need to know about your political viewpoint.
I suspect you'd be hard pressed to find any Democratic candidate acceptable, and we've in you did, I'm not sure you'd be particularly concerned if they won as long as you could stick to your exacting purity standards.
Unfortunately, those us who DO have to vote here, also have to live with the consequences.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)I'd love to see a sensible socialist as the Leader Of The Free World. Since that's not going to happen, I'm going to speak my mind about the candidates that ARE available. Good luck with those consequences!
djean111
(14,255 posts)were one and the same.
He said he had problems with BOTH sides.
"Watching American politics serves to confirm my views - Cotton, Cruz , McCain and another Bush on one side, Hillary on the other."
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Is that HRC made a video that showed how inclusive she was...what she has done and will do is not important at all...images on your TV is all that matters to many.
So we will continue with the insanity of doing the same thing and expecting different results...well perhaps we don't even have expectations anymore.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)We do have horrible problems with low voter turnout.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)As would a system that isn't so obviously oligarchic.
lame54
(35,335 posts)we'll take it from here
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)yet she is a 1000 times more Progressive than all the "other side" put together,,,,
Remember those that refuse to vote for the "lesser evil- greater good" candidate , votes against their own best interest!
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Don't you think that is a tad hyperbolic?...considering they both support the wars, the banksters, and the same right wing policies?
When I hear that hyperbole I automaticly don't believe it...and with good reason.
And the right moves farther to the right so that the left is always the lesser evil, and we don't seem to notice that we have been moved right because of it.
And that is why they have the clown car out there...to scare us to the right. And it seems to be working.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)from your logic,,,,you might as well take down her pic and put up a Stand with Rand ,,,
zeemike
(18,998 posts)With us or against us was made popular by Bush and now we hear it all the time on a Democratic board...just what does that tell us?
I support Warren now and will support her until the democrats nominate someone...fuck that inevitability meme.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)They *seek* 100 deliberately black-and-white, vitriolic threads about Hillary.
Anything to make sure the debate is narrowed to the topic of Hillary and only Hillary. What they *cannot* tolerate is to have the conversation begin to focus on possible non-predatory, less corporate alternatives.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And it is kind of insulting to think that people will fall for that "you are this or you are that" and one of them is always the awfullest one.
There are way to many intelligent people around here for that to work very well.