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Police Academy: "Disarm him before he can use it..." (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
Right on...the most powerful "piece" a citizen can carry...no permit required. libdem4life Apr 2015 #1
Must have them 'locked and loaded', nowadays. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
K&R nt Duval Apr 2015 #3
We have so much dotymed Apr 2015 #4
'We are already the most fascist 1st world nation...' Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
and isn't that a sickening comment on the bestest, freeest, greatest nation in the world?? niyad Apr 2015 #6
Looking on from abroad, I "cry my beloved country", niyad. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #7
believe me, I understand completely. niyad Apr 2015 #9
Have to wonder about the "iceberg" principle. DirkGently Apr 2015 #8
Just like in the case of rape... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
Yes. This ubiquitous video capture is impacting DirkGently Apr 2015 #13
I wish I could rec this depressing post. niyad Apr 2015 #11
Awareness is the first step to change, DirkGently Apr 2015 #12

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
4. We have so much
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:01 AM
Apr 2015

irrefutable evidence against "the enforcers" yet what will it take to stop these dangerous criminals?
Of course we keep recording these people that we pay to "serve and protect us" while they keep harming, killing and pissing on our rights but , I wonder, when will enough actually be enough?
Man, we have allowed things to escalate until it is more the norm than not. Most things rot from the bottom, upward. Not America. We have not successfully challenged the effect of money on our political system, the disgusting wealth inequality that keeps rising, the stealing and elimination of our personal rights and freedoms, 2 tiered justice system, etc...
What will break the camels back?
We are already the most fascist 1st world nation. Ironically, America used to be the standard for other countries
to emulate.
With our lives and liberties meaningless unless we possess wealth, we great unwashed (and now uneducated as well) masses who outnumber the fascists by at least 8 to 2, our deteriorating planet as well as our deteriorating populace cannot (physically incapable) of allowing "things" to progress as they are.

What is our catalyst?
It could be Bernie Sanders if we realize that party politics do us more harm than good.........

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. 'We are already the most fascist 1st world nation...'
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:03 AM
Apr 2015

If not yet, certainly headed in that direction.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
8. Have to wonder about the "iceberg" principle.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:53 AM
Apr 2015

We've known abuses happen. We believed, and sometimes we saw. But the horror of actually seeing what we're now actually seeing is nevertheless shocking.

And yet, this can only be a fraction of reality. The worst of the worst happens when there is no record, or when the record is destroyed.

So ...

1. How bad IS everything we're still NOT seeing / hearing?

2. And, is this a low point in the history of human conduct (seems unlikely) or have things been unspeakably more evil before we began to routinely record ourselves?

None of the possible answers are good.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. Just like in the case of rape...
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015
'And yet, this can only be a fraction of reality. The worst of the worst happens when there is no record, or when the record is destroyed.'

Or, the witness is too scared to come forward, as this one almost was.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
13. Yes. This ubiquitous video capture is impacting
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:13 PM
Apr 2015

that too. Except apparently rapists are so demented that they make their own horrifying records of their horrifying acts.

At least when law enforcement runs amok, the police seem to recognize their Facebook friends won't be amused by the video.

I don't know if our new obsession with recording ourselves will ultimately make things better, but at least in some of these cases, we seem to be slightly better at recognizing evil shot through the lens of a cell phone.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
12. Awareness is the first step to change,
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:59 AM
Apr 2015

... (we have to hope).

I'm no fan of the Panopticon as a general principle, but it seems like we have to look at these things to feel the full horror of what we're doing to each other, to be sufficiently galvanized to do something different.

At least I hope that's how it works.

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