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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:31 PM Apr 2015

I am glad Warren is not running for Pres. We'll need her to fight Hillary

Warren is handling Obama masterfully on this deal. She has the Democratic President running defense as he sides with the conservatives.

We will need her leadership for the next 4-8 years. She is likely more effective in pushing a Democratic President than a repug president, who would just ignore and denigrate her. She'll be a great liberal counter to President.

This is a preview of how Warren could influence the presidential debate without even running.

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I am glad Warren is not running for Pres. We'll need her to fight Hillary (Original Post) morningfog Apr 2015 OP
Well, Hillary will be President, but Elizabeth signed a letter asking Hillary to run. onehandle Apr 2015 #1
I don't disagree. After Hillary lavished praise on morningfog Apr 2015 #4
Fight Hillary on what? KMOD Apr 2015 #2
Hopefully not fight. Push, keep in check, counsel. morningfog Apr 2015 #5
Oh, I'm sure Elizabeth Warren will have HRC's ear. KMOD Apr 2015 #6
You seriously think HRC loves Warren? 2banon Apr 2015 #9
Yup. KMOD Apr 2015 #10
Then you would be mistaken. 2banon Apr 2015 #11
No, I don't believe I'm mistaken at all. KMOD Apr 2015 #12
One who appears able to speak truth to power, Maedhros Apr 2015 #26
All the things that Goldman and Citigroup are paying to have her do. [nt] Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #33
I can see her as "the lioness of the senate" Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2015 #3
Woks both ways, huh. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #7
What works both ways? morningfog Apr 2015 #8
They both would have a position to keep the other in check, if Warren remains in the Senate and if Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #13
Unrec for absolutely promoting divisiveness treestar Apr 2015 #14
There is no such thing as an unrec. morningfog Apr 2015 #15
It's just a comment. treestar Apr 2015 #19
So Warren and Obama calling each other out is not divisive? morningfog Apr 2015 #20
The OP is advocating Warren do things she probably wouldn't treestar Apr 2015 #21
Isn't that how we are looking to her now? To stop Obama's fast track TPP? morningfog Apr 2015 #23
Indeed! One can only imagine Warren's *real* motives MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #16
Agreed. blue neen Apr 2015 #17
Maybe we should let her finish fighting with Wall Street first. HRC is a year and a half away. Rex Apr 2015 #18
I'm glad for the trash thread function. n/t Scurrilous Apr 2015 #22
I'm glad for the Ignore list. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #29
President Obama isn't doing anything wrong on TPP, this is just another one of those underahedgerow Apr 2015 #24
What a load of bullshit. Maedhros Apr 2015 #30
I don't get this post. If Warren is president, no one will have to fight Hillary Doctor_J Apr 2015 #25
I think the idea is that Warren would lose if she ran. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #31
"Warren is handling Obama masterfully on this deal." NCTraveler Apr 2015 #27
Good god. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #28
This is a preview of just how NOT privy some here seem to think they are. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #32

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. Well, Hillary will be President, but Elizabeth signed a letter asking Hillary to run.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:34 PM
Apr 2015

So it's more likely they will be working together.

I believe Elizabeth will be in Hillary's cabinet.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
4. I don't disagree. After Hillary lavished praise on
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:37 PM
Apr 2015

her recently, it seemed clear they have an understanding and an agreement.

I think that Warren will still influence the debate and push Hillary though. Not sure whether I would prefer her to stay in the senate or pivot to a cabinet position.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
11. Then you would be mistaken.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 10:58 PM
Apr 2015

Hillary might "love" Warren's public statement of "support",,, but that's as far as "love" for Warren would go.

Even when and if the time comes where she has Warren in tow, campaigning for/with her... with pretty smiles and huggie huggies.. you can take it to the bank all of that ends when the election is over.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
12. No, I don't believe I'm mistaken at all.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:01 PM
Apr 2015

What HRC had to say about Warren.

http://time.com/3823064/elizabeth-warren-2015-time-100/

They both pretty much fight for the same goals. Two wonderful, strong, liberal women.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
26. One who appears able to speak truth to power,
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:16 PM
Apr 2015

the other able only to speak in campaign platitudes.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. They both would have a position to keep the other in check, if Warren remains in the Senate and if
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:08 PM
Apr 2015

Hillary is president a veto can happen. It should be more about the president and Congress working together to make improvements. Also since Hillary has been pushing for higher wages, curtailing Wall Street abuses for several years then perhaps bills can get sponsored in Congess and grt passed db and we know Hillary will sign into law. It would be a win-win situation.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. There is no such thing as an unrec.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:49 PM
Apr 2015

Do you consider Warren's and Obama's current back and forth "divisive?"

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
20. So Warren and Obama calling each other out is not divisive?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:34 PM
Apr 2015

But Warren calling Hillary out would be?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. The OP is advocating Warren do things she probably wouldn't
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:38 PM
Apr 2015

It's not about the disagreement, it's about how Warren should be in the future - as if they are looking to her to stop her fellow party members.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
23. Isn't that how we are looking to her now? To stop Obama's fast track TPP?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:12 PM
Apr 2015

What's the difference?

blue neen

(12,335 posts)
17. Agreed.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:11 AM
Apr 2015

I admire and respect both Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren and find this OP divisive and unnecessary.

In the absence of actual unrecs, this OP gets a symbolic unrec.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Maybe we should let her finish fighting with Wall Street first. HRC is a year and a half away.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:14 AM
Apr 2015

I'm more concerned about her battle with Wall Street. Plus, I don't see any tension between HRC and Warren.

There is no there, there.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
24. President Obama isn't doing anything wrong on TPP, this is just another one of those
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:10 PM
Apr 2015

"well if I don't understand then I'll raise a fuss about it' things.

As always, it's easier for the general public to be against something than to stand for something.

Obama has the biggest bullseye on his back right now until Mme Clinton gets a haircut or wears a pink dress with shoes that don't match.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
30. What a load of bullshit.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:19 PM
Apr 2015

Enough has been leaked and analyzed that it is clear to anyone who supports labor or the environment that there is a LOT wrong with the TPP.

Pretending otherwise is being deliberately ignorant, or disingenuous.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
27. "Warren is handling Obama masterfully on this deal."
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:16 PM
Apr 2015

The verbiage of the TPP has changed? There is no more deal?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
32. This is a preview of just how NOT privy some here seem to think they are.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:09 PM
Apr 2015

Clinton & Warren have both stated respect for each other.
Warren won't do anything TO Clinton, rather with each other in strong positions of power, they are more likely to continue on their mutual fight in keeping the RW from ever regaining the power they have today,

Some here wish badly to pit one against the other, as is the GOP's wish.
They are more together than opposite on policies & issues. That is the actual reality.

There are a few very great & powerful women & men in the Dem Legislature that will become the force that drives a constant wedge in the forward movement of a RW fascist leaning government for our America.

With strong polling like this one, as the election nears we can hopefully see a few Dem coattails riding along a 2016 Pres win.

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