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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWatch Baptist pastors go totally bonkers: ‘God breathed all over us’
Source: Raw Story
The event took place April 11 at Middle Tennessee Baptist Church, where the fired-up pastors bellowed gibberish and ran into the crowd, where they slapped hands with the congregation.
Others chanted like auctioneers, danced jigs, or strutted around in exaggerated fashion, swinging their jackets over their heads.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/watch-baptist-pastors-go-totally-bonkers-god-breathed-all-over-us/
William769
(55,148 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Sure, you may not practice this "brand" of christianity, but it's the same product that they're selling, they only use different marketing.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Sure, you may not practice the "brand" of atheism of mass-murdering despots like Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong, but it's the same product that they're selling, they only use different marketing.
Or is turnabout no longer fair play?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Christianity has a couple of millennia worth of blood on its hands. Especially this kind of "christianity".
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Is that it's perfectly acceptable to lump all people of faith in with the folks in the video, but it's eye-rollingly objectionable to lump all atheists in with atheistic regimes? Well, that whole "do unto others" schtick is rooted in religion, so it's obviously suspect, too.
Thanks for playing.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)in fairies and did not slaughter in the name of a-fairy-ism.
Similarly, the belief of theism was not the driving force for religious-based slaughter; but rather, Christian doctrines was the justification for their behavior.
Solomon
(12,319 posts)Thank you.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Stalin's and Mao's regimes (as is the current Kim regime in North Korea) were savagely atheistic, and routinely persecuted, imprisoned and executed people for counter-revolutionary thought, including professions of faith.
My point (and it's no surprise to me that it's being missed), is that the same broad brush condemnation of atheists based on atheistic regimes, is being used against people of faith in this thread. Except that I'm doing it in a not-serious way, but as a way to demonstrate just how objectionable the exact same tactic is when it's used against people of faith. Some people only recognize it when it's their ox being gored.
Aw shit, another biblical reference; I just invalidated the whole thing.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)through. Because if you had, you would see that we have almost agreement.
Stalin and Mao were not savagely atheistic in that they attacked religion based on their atheism. In fact, under Stalin, the establishment of churches flourished by 1000s. Both Stalin and Mao were not driven by their atheism to slaughter their citizenry. There is not one quote from any of them that proclaim they were going to slaughter citizens solely on their religious affiliations. They slaughtered anarchists, democratist, socialists (yes socialists)
any human being that stood in there way of power.
They did not use their atheism to justify their slaughter and christians were not specifically targeted.
Now, this is where you did not read and pay attention to my post that to which you responded
Just like atheism is not a motivating factor in Mao's and Stalin's reign of terror, THEISM (that is the belief in god) is not responsible for the reign of terror waged by Christian doctrine.
To illustrate using slavery as an example:
Quakers, who believed in Theism opposed slavery. And their Christian doctrine guided them to oppose slavery.
Baptists, who believed in Theism supported slavery. And their Christian doctrine guided them to support slavery.
My final point
history is riddled with mass slaughter, enslavement, holocaust, and brutal oppression based solely on which form of THEISM one ascribes to.
There is not one single example that you can present that atheists specifically targeted theists for mass slaughter.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)That justifies it being in General Discussion and not in the Religion Forum?
Bryant
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Every speaker and attendee.
We are stupiding ourselves to death as a species. Maybe it's good if the end comes sooner rather than later.
demmiblue
(36,903 posts)At least it doesn't reach Jesus Camp level! Poor kids.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)went happily to their advanced brainwashing sessions. They can't all be converting to this supreme stupidity as adults.
amb123
(1,581 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)we are devolving more every second .
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)to be accelerating over time. The snowball of teh stoopid is gaining momentum every second.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)If you can get your flock to believe that you're speaking in tongues you can also stick your hands down their pants or up their skirt. That's how these types of churches operate.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Know what I mean Vern?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Reminds me of the opening band of a ZZ Top concert I attended in 1986.
procon
(15,805 posts)where the guy had a bunch of the audience up on stage and dancing around like ballerinas. It was silly fun. These crazy old men just look like they've all escaped from a group home and are on a bad acid trip.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)I have to keep reminding myself.
Skittles
(153,226 posts)it's just a matter of degree
Rex
(65,616 posts)Fiction meet your sick real life cousin!
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)I knew I had seen it before too.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I had to check twice to make sure I was seeing it correctly!
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)You come along tearing your shirt yelling about Jesus.
Where do you get that stuff?
What do you know about Jesus?
Jesus had a way of talking soft and outside of a few bankers and higher-ups among the con men of Jerusalem everybody liked to have this Jesus around because he never made any fake passes and everything he said went and he helped the sick and gave the people hope.
You come along squirting words at us, shaking your fist and calling us all dam fools so fierce the froth slobbers over your lips always blabbing were all going to hell straight off and you know all about it.
Ive read Jesus words. I know what he said. You dont throw any scare into me. Ive got your number. I know how much you know about Jesus.
He never came near clean people or dirty people but they felt cleaner because he came along. It was your crowd of bankers and business men and lawyers hired the sluggers and murderers who put Jesus out of the running.
I say the same bunch backing you nailed the nails into the hands of this Jesus of Nazareth. He had lined up against him the same crooks and strong-arm men now lined up with you paying your way.
This Jesus was good to look at, smelled good, listened good. He threw out something fresh and beautiful from the skin of his body and the touch of his hands wherever he passed along.
You slimy bunkshooter, you put a smut on every human blossom in reach of your rotten breath belching about hell-fire and hiccupping about this Man who lived a clean life in Galilee.
When are you going to quit making the carpenters build emergency hospitals for women and girls driven crazy with wrecked nerves from your gibberish about JesusI put it to you again: Where do you get that stuff; what do you know about Jesus?
Go ahead and bust all the chairs you want to. Smash a whole wagon load of furniture at every performance. Turn sixty somersaults and stand on your nutty head. If it wasnt for the way you scare the women and kids Id feel sorry for you and pass the hat.
I like to watch a good four-flusher work, but not when he starts people puking and calling for the doctors.
I like a man thats got nerve and can pull off a great original performance, but youyoure only a bug-house peddler of second-hand gospelyoure only shoving out a phoney imitation of the goods this Jesus wanted free as air and sunlight.
You tell people living in shanties Jesus is going to fix it up all right with them by giving them mansions in the skies after theyre dead and the worms have eaten em.
You tell $6 a week department store girls all they need is Jesus; you take a steel trust wop, dead without having lived, gray and shrunken at forty years of age, and you tell him to look at Jesus on the cross and hell be all right.
You tell poor people they dont need any more money on pay day and even if its fierce to be out of a job, Jesusll fix that up all right, all rightall they gotta do is take Jesus the way you say.
Im telling you Jesus wouldnt stand for the stuff youre handing out. Jesus played it different. The bankers and lawyers of Jerusalem got their sluggers and murderers to go after Jesus just because Jesus wouldnt play their game. He didnt sit in with the big thieves.
I dont want a lot of gab from a bunkshooter in my religion.
I wont take my religion from any man who never works except with his mouth and never cherishes any memory except the face of the woman on the American silver dollar.
I ask you to come through and show me where youre pouring out the blood of your life.
Ive been to this suburb of Jerusalem they call Golgotha, where they nailed Him, and I know if the story is straight it was real blood ran from His hands and the nail-holes, and it was real blood spurted in red drops where the spear of the Roman soldier rammed in between the ribs of this Jesus of Nazareth.
hatrack
(59,594 posts)That was . . . righteous!
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)people should pick and choose who qualifies for tolerance and who doesn't
Aerows
(39,961 posts)away from handling snakes.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Or any "unaffiliated" congregation under Church of God, Dominionist folks. Ugh...you have to be indoctrinated into this kind of nonsense, normal people don't get pulled into this stuff. Sleazy.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)xfundy
(5,105 posts)hatrack
(59,594 posts)As for the behavior above, it's guess it's what people do when their religion doesn't let them drink beer or smoke pot.
AnnieBW
(10,465 posts)It was a fart in your general direction!