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ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:12 PM Apr 2015

It's as Simple as this... I am anti-abortion...

...for myself.

and you, if you have a uterus, get to decide that as well. There really shouldn't be any debate about it, and I'm sick that we're having this fight again... on a message board. And there shouldn't be any shame or sadness or any of the crap that women have been told they "should" be feeling ever since Roe v. Wade. We all get to live our lives without input unless we ask for it. We don't have to pay some emotional penance should we decide to have an abortion to make you feel better about it all. In fact, I long for a day when women don't feel compelled to have to tell their stories about their decisions and how they felt about them because their rights will be iron-clad protected against perverted politicians and the "save the fetus, screw the child" set. Most of us aren't on here discussing our routine medical procedures...

I used to support "legal, safe, and rare," but that's a line of bunk. It is still threading the shame right through there in an attempt to appease people the law doesn't even protect. "Legal and safe." And before the education-prevents-unwanted-pregnancy people show up, THIS is not about THAT. Thank you.

What am I really against??? Women bleeding out on their bathroom floors and babies being found dead in dumpsters.

Side note: If you don't have a uterus... sorry Bub. Not your decision/problem/life/place to tell anyone what they should do/how they should feel. You manage your life. I'll manage mine.


Thank you.

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It's as Simple as this... I am anti-abortion... (Original Post) ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 OP
then I would suggest that people who support that view to vote Democratic, because the next SC still_one Apr 2015 #1
Did I suggest someone not vote? ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #3
No, and my comment was not about the primaries, but that if people want to keep abortion legal I still_one Apr 2015 #19
Seeing as this is DU, pretty sure that goes without saying. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #20
Yes, and I would say that on DU 99.9% would agree with your OP also. DU isn't the problem. The still_one Apr 2015 #22
I agree completely, my dear SM! Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2015 #2
You're welcome! ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #6
I am pro choice. Period. xfundy Apr 2015 #4
That was where I was 10 years ago. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #7
Succinct, I like!!!! haikugal Apr 2015 #5
Thanks haikugal ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #8
+1000 JaneyVee Apr 2015 #9
i use to believe that is who i was, until i realized i have been put to absolutely no test what so seabeyond Apr 2015 #10
My daughter was born when I was 19, wildly changing who I was and where I wanted to ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #11
Recently, i watched my niece with a man. family was ok with him. purposely getting her preg seabeyond Apr 2015 #13
No uterus here, but I think abortion should be legal, safe, and fishwax Apr 2015 #12
I am pro-life. I would hope we all are pro-life. Like what's the alternate, pro-death? rhett o rick Apr 2015 #14
I really love this part: calimary Apr 2015 #15
^^^ this^^^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #16
Your closing paragraph says it all. n/t. bvf Apr 2015 #17
Saying "Abortion should be rare" is like saying "Root canal should be rare". eggplant Apr 2015 #18
No, thank you. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #21
I am 100% against abortion... jeff47 Apr 2015 #23

still_one

(92,482 posts)
1. then I would suggest that people who support that view to vote Democratic, because the next SC
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:17 PM
Apr 2015

will decide it for decades to come

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
3. Did I suggest someone not vote?
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:19 PM
Apr 2015

I don't believe I did, so carry on to the pre primary battle threads please

still_one

(92,482 posts)
19. No, and my comment was not about the primaries, but that if people want to keep abortion legal I
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:41 AM
Apr 2015

Suggested they stood a better chance with Democrats verses republicans

still_one

(92,482 posts)
22. Yes, and I would say that on DU 99.9% would agree with your OP also. DU isn't the problem. The
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:19 AM
Apr 2015

country is the problem. In the last election, a higher percent of white women voted for republicans, at least according to exit polls.

http://www.colorlines.com/articles/democrats-have-white-women-problem

All the battles that were fought for women's rights in the 50's and 60's are at risk of being turned back. If the ERA was presented today it wouldn't make it, which only puts emphasis on the fact that discrimination against women is still a very real problem in the U.S.


xfundy

(5,105 posts)
4. I am pro choice. Period.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:22 PM
Apr 2015

Abortions are unfortunate, but they are a fact of life. They even happened in bible times. Should they be legal? Hell yes. With all the arguments over whether a fetus can feel pain, then fine, I would limit it to the time just before a fetus has a functional brain, were I the king.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
7. That was where I was 10 years ago.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:32 PM
Apr 2015

Now, I realize that there should be no shame, guilt or penance paid. It would be unfortunate for me, but I can't say that for everyone.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. i use to believe that is who i was, until i realized i have been put to absolutely no test what so
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:37 PM
Apr 2015

ever.

then i decided that i really did not have the right to own that positon. so i let that one go.

as i said in another thread.

as long as people back, protect, and fight for our women and girls right, and lives, i am good with it.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
11. My daughter was born when I was 19, wildly changing who I was and where I wanted to
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:39 PM
Apr 2015

go with my life. That was my test.

Thank you for the input.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
13. Recently, i watched my niece with a man. family was ok with him. purposely getting her preg
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:45 PM
Apr 2015

with a third child she really really did not want. but... she was anti abortion with herself.... as we have held. we then watched over a period of a month, him becoming violent, working on isolating her and controlling her. no signs prior.

x military and perfectly comfortable with his loaded weapons he carried with him. and willing to choke a friend to unconscious.

she had two other little kids from previous marriage.

at this point, she had to actually sit down and consider tying herself to this unstable man for two decades. not only putting herself at risk, but her two children and a future child.

it was an eye opener for all of us, never having been around a person that was to this extreme.

ya.

i would have done as she did. had never considered it in the past, just sure i would have the safety nets and security, strength to follow thru. but, it was a whole different world to step into.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. I am pro-life. I would hope we all are pro-life. Like what's the alternate, pro-death?
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:09 AM
Apr 2015

I am against the death penalty, I am against wars, I think it's societies obligation to help children not die (our country has a very bad record for this), and I am for reducing abortions. I am for reducing abortions thru education. However, if abortions are needed then I favor having society help those in need of abortions.

calimary

(81,555 posts)
15. I really love this part:
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:20 AM
Apr 2015

"What am I really against??? Women bleeding out on their bathroom floors and babies being found dead in dumpsters."

Yep. You said it, Meemie. THAT is what we're going to get more of, as the radical wrong keep whittling away OUR sovereignty over OUR OWN BODIES. Unless we stop it. Seriously.

eggplant

(3,915 posts)
18. Saying "Abortion should be rare" is like saying "Root canal should be rare".
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:41 AM
Apr 2015

It's nobody's else's business how many or how few abortions someone has.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. I am 100% against abortion...
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:35 PM
Apr 2015

...for myself.

And since I don't have a uterus, I've been able to stick to my very deeply held personal conviction that I should never have an abortion.

Other people get to make their own decisions. Though other men who are willing to have abortions sicken me. Those perverts getting abortions even though they don't have a uterus. It's shameful.

Women? They get to make their own decisions, and can involve as many or as few people as she wants in that decision. After all, if we can't trust women with abortion, how the hell can we trust them with a child?

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