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marym625

(17,997 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:48 PM Apr 2015

The word is "transgender" NOT "transgendered"

I was just going to respond to each person that used the wrong word but there are too many. Figured a short post might help

On edit: a couple of links provided by MaDem and Spider Jerusalem that help explain it.

http://time.com/3630965/transgender-transgendered/

http://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender

There are more in the replies and I thank all who have provided such links

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The word is "transgender" NOT "transgendered" (Original Post) marym625 Apr 2015 OP
Good to know. xfundy Apr 2015 #1
I'm sure it is not intentional. marym625 Apr 2015 #4
Definitely some confusion out there on this. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #2
hmm. Well that's interesting. marym625 Apr 2015 #5
Nye, while I respect the individual in the blog marym625 Apr 2015 #13
Also, transgender is never a noun. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #3
Thank you! marym625 Apr 2015 #7
Here is an article discussing the rationale for your assertion. MADem Apr 2015 #6
Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #8
Excellent article, especially this example: No one would call someone an tblue37 Apr 2015 #9
I think once you realize that, "transgendered" sounds so nonsensical. kcr Apr 2015 #12
Lefthanded, farsighted, redheaded, etc. etc. Mariana Apr 2015 #14
I think the '-ed' was more like 'gendered', in which it means "has a ...", not "something done" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #15
Correct and thank you. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #10
Me too marym625 Apr 2015 #11
So noted rock Apr 2015 #16
excellent example. Thank you marym625 Apr 2015 #17
To me transgendered always felt like it should be two words, not one justiceischeap Apr 2015 #18
I can see that. But it shouldn't be used at all marym625 Apr 2015 #19

marym625

(17,997 posts)
4. I'm sure it is not intentional.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:57 PM
Apr 2015

In fact, if anyone is using a Samsung product with auto correct, it automatically changes to "transgendered. Samsung is homophobic, sexist, bigoted and every other negative thing about minorities. It doesn't even know the word "gay"

Just trying to educate with the little knowledge I have in the subject

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. Definitely some confusion out there on this.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:55 PM
Apr 2015
http://iamtransgendered.com

This website is dedicated to providing support and information to the transgendered community and to people who are being introduced to the community. I decided to build this website as a way for me to explain to my Mom what being transgendered is about.










marym625

(17,997 posts)
5. hmm. Well that's interesting.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:59 PM
Apr 2015

And something I have never seen before. I have transgender friends that would be very upset about this.

Thanks for the link

marym625

(17,997 posts)
13. Nye, while I respect the individual in the blog
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:38 PM
Apr 2015

I think, perhaps, it is old language or ignorance. Even one of the links in the blog uses transgender.

I don't mean any disrespect to anyone. But that just isn't the norm for the community.

I will say, it is confusing. Any transgender person that wants to describe themselves that way, it sure is not my place to criticize.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
3. Also, transgender is never a noun.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:56 PM
Apr 2015

Someone may be a transgender man, woman, or person, but never "a transgender". And it's "trans woman/man", not "transwoman" (yes, the space is important).

This is a good reference guide: http://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender

marym625

(17,997 posts)
8. Thank you
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:01 PM
Apr 2015

I probably should have done that in the OP. I definitely should have. I will edit.

Thank you

tblue37

(65,502 posts)
9. Excellent article, especially this example: No one would call someone an
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:12 PM
Apr 2015

"Italianed American" person. That comparison, I think, clarifies why "transgender" should not be treated as though it is the past participle form a verb, because doing so makes it sound as though somehow the transgender person had something done to him or her to cause a resulting "condition, rather than having been who he or she is all along.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
12. I think once you realize that, "transgendered" sounds so nonsensical.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:20 PM
Apr 2015

That's a very good explanation.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
14. Lefthanded, farsighted, redheaded, etc. etc.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:54 PM
Apr 2015

Nothing was done to anyone who fits those descriptions, either.

Don't get me wrong, I say "transgender" because the one transgender person in my life prefers it. But that particular explanation of why we should makes no sense at all, unless you propose to eliminate ALL such terms when describing someone's inherent traits.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,394 posts)
15. I think the '-ed' was more like 'gendered', in which it means "has a ...", not "something done"
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 04:30 PM
Apr 2015

as the examples in #14 are - 'uses their left hand', 'has far sight', 'has a red head' and so on. So the earlier adjective is 'gendered' = 'has a known gender', and some people thought 'if we have the adjective 'gendered', then this adjective would be 'transgendered''. Now, 'has (a) transgender' doesn't make too much sense, so it does make more sense to use 'transgender' as an adjective.

The Oxford English Dictionary points to this (and points out 'transgender' was used in print first):
transgendered, adj. Etymology: < trans- prefix + gendered adj.2 Compare earlier transgender adj.
1974 D. Cordell in Rep. First National TV.TS Conf. 16 There is a tendency among trans-gender people to encourage each other.
1983 K. E. Stuart Uninvited Dilemma viii. 97 A therapist..who specializes in working with transgendered persons.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
11. Me too
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:17 PM
Apr 2015

I am very confused by Nye's post. Seems this is not the universal thing I thought it was. Or, perhaps, those are old

Thank you!

rock

(13,218 posts)
16. So noted
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

I had no idea that "transgendered" was offensive but clearly see that one would not want to be referred to as (say) "womaned".

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