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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstoday marks 40 years since our failure in Vietnam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Saigonexcept for military contractors, they made out like bandits.
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Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)But, we keep trying to "help" with weapons, troops, drones, torture, and lots of money.
malthaussen
(17,219 posts)... but the war did demonstrate the barrenness of the Containment policy. Although since the dominoes did not fall, the old Cold Warriors could argue that the policy saved the region (insert guffaws here).
-- Mal
pansypoo53219
(21,004 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)1939
(1,683 posts)We left behind in Vietnam a dedicated cadre of free market "black marketeers" and after 20 years of them running rings around the doctrinaire communists from Hanoi, the government just decided to be socialist on the major businesses and let everything else be free market. All of a sudden there were no shortages and you didn't have to take toilet paper, soap, and shampoo with you went you went for a visit. Free enterprise is all over the places with thousands of little mom and pop businesses.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Halliburton has a reputation for being in the forefront of the privatized warmaking business, thanks to Sneering Dick Cheney and Poppy Bush.
Cheney's Multi-Million Dollar Revolving Door
News: As Bush Sr.'s secretary of defense, Dick Cheney steered millions of dollars in government business to a private military contractor -- whose parent company just happened to give him a high-paying job after he left the government.
By Robert Bryce
Mother Jones
August 2, 2000
EXCERPT...
In 1992, the Pentagon, then under Cheney's direction, paid Texas-based Brown & Root Services $3.9 million to produce a classified report detailing how private companies -- like itself -- could help provide logistics for American troops in potential war zones around the world. BRS specializes in such work; from 1962 to 1972, for instance, the company worked in the former South Vietnam building roads, landing strips, harbors, and military bases. Later in 1992, the Pentagon gave the company an additional $5 million to update its report. That same year, BRS won a massive, five-year logistics contract from the US Army Corps of Engineers to work alongside American GIs in places like Zaire, Haiti, Somalia, Kosovo, the Balkans, and Saudi Arabia.
After Bill Clinton's election cost Cheney his government job, he wound up in 1995 as CEO of Halliburton Company, the Dallas-based oil services giant -- which just happens to own Brown & Root Services. Since then, Cheney has collected more than $10 million in salary and stock payments from the company. In addition, he is currently the company's largest individual shareholder, holding stock and options worth another $40 million. Those holdings have undoubtedly been made more valuable by the ever-more lucrative contracts BRS continues to score with the Pentagon.
Between 1992 and 1999, the Pentagon paid BRS more than $1.2 billion for its work in trouble spots around the globe. In May of 1999, the US Army Corps of Engineers re-enlisted the company's help in the Balkans, giving it a new five-year contract worth $731 million.
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http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/08/cheney.html
Kellogg, Brown and Root, Halliburton's parent company, helped make Vietnam into a money maker for a certain Texas politician who, uh, was fooled into war when the NSA and CIA lied about the Gulf of Tonkin.
Halliburton Deals Recall Vietnam-Era Controversy
Cheney's Ties to Company Reminiscent of LBJ's Relationships
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1569483
I wonder if President Kennedy would have seen war as a form of welfare for the wealthy? I do know after the Bay of Pigs thing he could see right through the warmongers:
JFK Would NEVER Have Fallen for Phony INTEL
What's news to most Americans, President Kennedy had opposed war in Vietnam and ordered the withdrawal of U.S. troops. About a week after the assassination, President Johnson countermanded those orders. Here are links to NSAM 263 and NSAM 273 so readers can see for themselves.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)One might be mistaken. I know this for a fact.
Treaty was NOT applicable to South Vietnam, imho. YMMV.