After their third annual paycheck.

Everyone should be able to live their life to their fullest potential.
We need to remove the roadblocks to the above ideas.

a young black man should be able to exist without being shot in the back, dead.

a woman should be able to get an abortion, without peers screaming hate at her, shaming her, denying her the ability to get hte abortion.

a woman should be able to charge rape, without being called a liar or told it does not matter.

a gay person should be served cake, or allowed to be married.

i gotcha. convinced me.

it is also opportunity for all.

but to me it would mean a strong safety net, no one going without food, shelter, or medical care. That very drop of education you could swallow was available. And that mobility in every sense of the word, social, economic, etc..., was an universal truth.

No one should be unable to find work.

Housing should be available to all, at a price that doesn't break the bank.

A full day's work at a regular job should generate enough income to be able to support a family of four.

College or vocational school should be affordable.

The rising tide should lift ALL boats, not drown the poor bastards not able to afford a boat, or a door to float on.

The unable, for any reason, get basic needs met. No dying on the streets, or BKs due to health issues, or Credit Reports ruining people's job chances. Probably could go on, but it would be a bit depressing. But thanks for the question. Everyone needs to search their souls, support the party that comes the closest, and the candidate who can do the best possible at this point in cultural time.

I look forward to reading the responses.

to good schools medical, I could go on.

In the context being used, a nice distraction from the other half that is needed to get that state, which is social justice.

You cannot have one without the other, and it is a chicken egg question which one is needed first, In my view, they need to happen at the same time.

But hey, way, waaayyyy too cynical to expect more than just noise.

Some believe that if we take care of "economic justice". It will miraculously cure all the other ills of "social justice". That sounds alarmingly like trickle down economics to me and we all know how well that worked out. It will never reach the ones that need the most help.

A country has intrinsic "wealth". Water, air, land, resources, etc. Those resources are used to create things. Everyone should be sharing in the results of the use of that wealth, and it should be representative of the fact that we all share the "ownership" of that initial wealth. We must be cautious of giving control of resources and assets to individuals who then use it to acquire more than "their share" of the wealth.

than one needs, not stripping creatures of their habitats, not poisoning our environment.

Sharing, cooperating, caring, nurturing.

Economic justice is inseparable from social justice, from gender justice. And all forms of Justice demands true equality, not just theoretical equality under the law.

Economic justice means the freedom to live your life without constantly worrying that you can lose everything at any time.

If not, at least a system where the wealth of the Nation is more equally distributed to the citizens. Where every citizen does his/her part (and is given the opportunity to do so) and is rewarded appropriately. Where no person has to go hungry or homeless.

the way "social justice warrior" is? Because anyone who uses the latter term is a huge jerk and the rest of us aren't?

Virginia Woolf was on the right track when she sid women could be freed from their dependent status with "500£ and a room of their own."

Stable housing is the basis of all other self-determination: the ability to forge ahead instead of being pushed everywhere. Rent and mortgagds require people to shell out on a regular basis. People must be enabled to make these payments first and foremost before they can live any kind of regular life.

Thus people need REGULAR jobs.

Not gig jobs. Not on-call jobs. Not temp jobs. Regular jobs that exist close enough to the housing so a person doesn't waste away their life commuting. Regular jobs that pay enough so the rent or mortgage doesn't exceed a quarter of the income - because people also have to deal with childcare, eldercare, student loans, and other big expenses.

And these jobs should make appropriate use of people's skills and education. Other people in this thread referred to this as "opportunity" - I want to underscore the opportunity is also for the employer and society when skills are being maximized and deployed efficiently.

I also want to note that Adam Smith himself promoted full employment which would naturally justify high wages. He thought employers SHOULD have to compete for talent. He thought jigh wages were good for the economy and massive inequality very bad.

As a person who is currently a recipient of General Assistance welfare, I'd like to testify that I would have cost the taxpayer a lot less money if I had been assigned a medical case manager for complex conditions and if I had some sort of cross-agency case manager who could not oversee everything I'm eligible for and help me deal with the numerous frak-ups, but also had some authority to address ad hoc needs. If my medical and social situation could have been stabilized at the same time, I probably would have looked better as a job candidate. As it is, though, I'm always really sick or always in a crisis situation, and that's not a good foundation for job-hunting. I linger on the tax payer's dime.

My life is also completely owned by medical appointments and the poverty bureaucracy. My organizer looks like I must be the CEO of the planet. Economic justice would be to be released from a significant portion of this and "own" my own time: make my own plans and set my own goals.

I would be able to have that personal autonomy and human dignity with stable housing and an adequate regular income.

IMHO the State's role in this is to maximize bridges between jobs and people who need jobs. The emphasis should always be on simplicity and speedy employment. If empoyers are creating a situation of job scarcity to reduce wages, theState should not hesitate to directly create jobs as a "public option" competitor to maintain wage levels and full employment. Also the State should aggressively uphold labor law and support unions (with extra support for small unions to maintain unionism as a larger ecosystem insted of just a few large organizations that can be attacked.

Hope this makes my "socialist" position clear.

is that no one is held back from reaching their economic potential due to things like race, gender, sexual orientation, etc., which is why I don't understand how people think economic justice can come before racial justice. Racism affects earning potential and overall wealth in a large number of ways. There's no way for people of color to be included if racism still exists, therefore there would be no economic justice, nor anything else that includes the word "justice."

from the responses to other threads, I would have thought more people would have wanted to share what they mean when they talk about economic justice.

Given the number of threads where this became the topic, as opposed to the actual topic, and was discussed profusely, yet, now, that it is actually the center of the discussion, only a few chose to discuss it.

Anybody that is willing to work to the best of his or her ability ie entitled to a liveable wage...

--fair living wages
--adjustments for cost of living
--ending corporate "personhood"
--reliable, affordable, and reasonable access to (preferably free) healthcare
--free higher education/trade school
--ending the "war on drugs"
--adequate housing

However, having secure voting rights without gerrymandered districts, security in not being fired for being gay, access to reproductive rights, and being able to be legally married would make many things fall into place, IMO.

The workers could control all the farms and factories, either directly, or through a true people's government.

All basic needs could be guaranteed as a matter of right. We can have an end to hunger and economic insecurity. The right to a decent job and equal access to health care and education, regardless of ability to pay.

For me stuff like that is economic justice.

I couldn't agree more.

Economic Justice where trading conditions are standardized. Policies and procedures are the same for equal trade on a world wide market.

Wherein labor is shown respect in the form of a paycheck that allows for a chance at a lifestyle that is conducive to peace of mind.

Economic Justice should allow respect for this planet and its resources to not be abused and/or misused.

Progressive taxation.

Share your wealth type programs.

Massive Sweden style redistribution.

expanding the ACA, investing in public schools, increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans, making college more affordable. Investing in inner cities and affordable housing. Investing in programs diverting people from prison- and more.

i think it means that every American has access to a strong safety net. It means that corporations are appropriately regulated - much more so than they are now. Trusts and monopolistic practices are curtailed. The wealthy and corporations pay more taxes than they do currently; they benefit the most, they should pay the most.

None of those will really address social injustices, I am constrained to admit. I still think they are worth doing, although I think curbing police brutality and murder is probably a higher priority.

Bryant