I believe the only state he came in second was Maine.

He has said that time and again.

BTW, the race with TR was real close in the pop vote if my memory was correct...But a popular ex pres running is as good as it gets...

... would that also qualify as a "third party" win? Because Bernie's running in the Democratic Primary is equivalent to tea party candidates running in Republican primaries.

I was replying to the OP regarding his or observation about the efficacy of third party candidacies.

Some people engage in macrame. others collect stamp. he... does this.

He began as a Liberty Union candidate and lost elections by wide margins until he became an independent

OR for more enthusiastic types...

"It is better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees," Zapata.

Gee, maybe better not chance it.......

if he loses and feels slighted?

He had previously ran for office as a Whig.

Presidents Harrison, Tyler, Taylor and Fillmore were members of the Whig Party. Admittedly, though, Tyler and Fillmore are cheating a bit, as they were both elected to the vice presidency and took over the White House after their President's died in office.

John Adams was a member of the Federalist Party.

If you just want to discuss people who have had a good showing, Ross Perot had nearly 20% of the vote in 1992 as an Independent. George Wallace won around 15% of the popular and took over 40 electoral votes in the late 1960's.

Roosevelt ran as a Republican (back when they were liberal) and won the Presidency. When he ran again, he ran as a member of the Progressive Party. Though his second run failed, he still pulled more than 30% of the popular vote and over 80 electoral votes.

and this belief is pushing me to enroll in a history degree program next fall.

Great post, Xithras

of someone of Howard Zinn's stature. I had never heard of him before tonight. Learning about him (on Wiki) has touched me very deeply and personally. His story is remarkable.

Your post is an amazing example of how synchronicity works, (too long a story for tonight), but I want to thank you so much.

And I just got done posting how I cannot motivate people, talk about synchronicity, thank you Pooka Fey!

Nixon was very concerned about Wallace 72 because most of Wallace's 68 votes came out of his hide. The irony is Bremer was stalking Nixon too...He just wanted to be (in)famous.

the Federalists calling the Republicans "Democrats." The so-called Republicans later split into the National Republicans and the Democratic Republicans; eventually the National Republicans became known as Whigs and the Democratic Republicans as Democrats, but the Whigs split over slavery, some moving to the Democrats and the remainder eventually becoming what we now call Republicans

John Tyler is an interesting example. He was originally a Democrat but moved into the Whigs and gathered their VP nomination; then Harrison's almost immediate death in office left Tyler president. Neither the Whigs nor the Democrats supported him for re-election. He ultimately sided with the secessionists and won a seat in the Confederate House of Representatives

How many ways should I try to tell you that this sounds so very conservative as to not belong to the 'liberal party'.

That Koran burning pastor down in Florida, for instance, and some guy called something like Zoltan Kazol or somesuch.

exam, Insurance agents, CPA.
So i guess nobody should EVER try