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KoKo

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Sun May 31, 2015, 10:55 PM May 2015

Senate Advances NSA reform — but Patriot Act Program to Lapse at Midnight--The Hill

Senate advances NSA reform — but program to lapse at midnight


By Julian Hattem - 05/31/15 06:41 PM EDT

The Senate advanced legislation 77-17 to reform the National Security Agency on Sunday, but parts of the Patriot Act will nonetheless lapse for a few days amid opposition from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

The legislation, called the USA Freedom Act, will not reach President Obama’s desk until after the three measures expire at midnight, meaning that the provisions will expire until the bill is passed by the Senate and signed by Obama later this week.
“The Patriot Act will expire tonight,” Paul declared triumphantly from the Senate floor during a rare Sunday evening vote. “It will only be temporary. They will ultimately get their way.”

Obama has supported the measure and had repeatedly urged lawmakers to support it in the days leading up to Sunday’s deadline. The bill needed 60 votes in order to advance.

“The Senate took an important—if late—step forward tonight,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest said in a statement late Sunday. “We call on the Senate to ensure this irresponsible lapse in authorities is as short-lived as possible. On a matter as critical as our national security, individual Senators must put aside their partisan motivations and act swiftly. The American people deserve nothing less.”


A failed gambit by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) opened the door to Paul’s use of procedural tactics to delay consideration of the bill.

Paul had made the spying programs unearthed by former government contractor Edward Snowden a central part of his presidential candidacy and vowed to force the expiration of the Patriot Act heading into the weekend.


Paul argues the USA Freedom Act — which was approved by the House 338-88 earlier in May — does not go far enough to rein in spying programs that he and his allies argue are unconstitutional.


“Are we going to so blithely give up our freedom? Are we going to so blindly go along and take it?” Paul said in heated remarks on the Senate floor before the vote.

“I’m not going to take it anymore,” he declared, as his voice rose to a shout. “I don’t think the American people are going to take it anymore.”

Paul — who had roughly two dozen supporters crowding the gallery of the Senate in red “Stand with Rand” t-shirts — appeared to declare victory after the vote.

“We didn't have 60 votes before to end the bulk collection,” he told reporters after emerging from the chamber. “By slowing the process down, talking about the Patriot Act, we now will end bulk collection of records by the government.”

McConnell introduced a handful of amendments Sunday evening on behalf of himself and Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.). Paul and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has also attempted to bring up amendments of their own, but they were blocked.

Paul’s opposition will push votes on both those amendments and the final bill back to Tuesday at the earliest, and potentially Wednesday.

The House would then either need to vote on the new bill or hash out the details in a conference committee.

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) — an NSA critic — warned senators against adding amendments to the legislation that could potentially weaken the bill in the eyes of its supporters.

“On the House side there's not support for a more watered down version of the Freedom Act,” he said. “If they want to get something passed through the House they need to make it better not worse.”
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The advance of the USA Freedom Act was a defeat for McConnell, who supported a straight extension of the Patriot Act. He and other Senate hawks had tried to win an extension, but fell short of a majority in the Senate in a vote earlier this month.


More of the "Smoke & Mirrors" at.....

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/243575-senate-advances-nsa-reform-but-program-to-lapse-at-midnight



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Senate Advances NSA reform — but Patriot Act Program to Lapse at Midnight--The Hill (Original Post) KoKo May 2015 OP
Interesting there was several Nay votes on the Republican side. Thinkingabout May 2015 #1
I predict the final version will barely pass this week. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #2
3 minutes until i am less safe nvme May 2015 #3
It feels like today/tonight was more about the Republican primary and less about the NSA Johonny Jun 2015 #4
seems to take it as a given that the "USA Freedom Act" will pass Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #5

Johonny

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4. It feels like today/tonight was more about the Republican primary and less about the NSA
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:38 AM
Jun 2015

Given a month ago the bill that finally squeezed through was agreed on by the house and Obama it would appear like a gimmie to pass. The odd display of McConnell trying to jam the Patriot act through congress given recent court ruling seemed like an attempt to keep hard liners on the NSA primary ammunition. There seems no doubt a renewed Patriot act was heading to more court dates. On the other side was Rand Paul trying to kill everything and pissing off his whole party seems like more fuel to pile on his fire. No doubt the subject will be fought out in the coming primary to come. Meanwhile given the "change" in the new bill it isn't clear the lapse is that big a deal. I doubt the new data collection method was going to be up in running anyways.

Of course a lone wolf might kill us at any minute, why a lone wolf's data needs to be collected using special powers I never understood. If he's communicating with other people then he isn't a lone wolf, if he's a lone wolf... there isn't any communications to collect hence the name lone wolf. They've never used the provision, I wonder why

 

Man from Pickens

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5. seems to take it as a given that the "USA Freedom Act" will pass
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 02:07 AM
Jun 2015

the detail seems to indicate a bit rockier road

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