In an infuriating but all too predictable pattern, the concern trolls won't actually read this post or the links, nor will they stop to consider the facts. Because they don't CARE about silly things like facts or logic. They wish to toss bombs in threads, create havoc, and then move onto the next. That way, a small minority can obtain the most important thing, attention, while maintaining control of the discussion. The behavior has a disturbing resemblance to the tactics of those "across the aisle," who even though they were the minority in Congress at one time and in the country as a whole, still manage to convince everyone that their completely fabricated controversies are somehow extremely and urgently important.

O’Malley said he supported the package but proposed a couple of additional measures he said would go farther, such as a public advocate in FISA courts, and changes to warrant procedures.

"We're a people who should never give up our privacy for our security," he said on ABC Sunday.

(I'm in favor of scrapping the entire thing)

It sounds like O'Malley and Sanders want something more reasoned and better for us the people.

I agree with you that personally I would love to see the whole damned thing scrapped. I just don't know if that will occur in the current DC climate.

have built-in expiration dates too?

Their positions all seem somewhat similar. At least from the links you provided.

This post corrects those from the last 24 hours that have stated such lies as Sanders voted for the Patriot Act, Clinton is against the Freedom Act, and O'Malley is as well.

You are right. At this point in time, they are fairly close in their views on it. But that is not what has been being promulgated on DU.

Let me guess some people took the sarcasm seriously?

Baiters gonna bait...

This is not sarcasm.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026759863

There are replies within that thread as well.

Go forth and read.

Anyone who really thought that Clinton or O'Malley voted for it are fools... as is anyone who thinks a vote for cloture is actually a vote for a bill.

We agree.

Sanders voted to let the USA Freedom Act move forward.

He has just stated on national TV that he will NOT be voting for the USA Freedom Act as it does not do enough to protect citizens from unconstitutional invasions of privacy all in the name of supposed protection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=91&v=3f6yF3wnAJg

I don't like this ^ statement very much though. I like it much better when he talks about marching on Washington. Why should we give in to their ridiculous surveillance requests?

But for now I am please he won't vote for it. Something else will come along. If he did not in this time period speak to the dangers of terrorism, he would be torn apart by Democrats and Republicans alike.

and I am sure we will see more as the debate sets in.

I like what O'Malley has said.