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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:15 AM Jun 2015

TSA fails 95% of the time in tests to smuggle guns explosives onto planes





http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881

An internal investigation of the Transportation Security Administration revealed security failures at dozens of the nation’s busiest airports, where undercover investigators were able to smuggle mock explosives or banned weapons through checkpoints in 95 percent of trials, ABC News has learned.

The series of tests were conducted by Homeland Security Red Teams who pose as passengers, setting out to beat the system.

According to officials briefed on the results of a recent Homeland Security Inspector General’s report, TSA agents failed 67 out of 70 tests, with Red Team members repeatedly able to get potential weapons through checkpoints.

In one test an undercover agent was stopped after setting off an alarm at a magnetometer, but TSA screeners failed to detect a fake explosive device that was taped to his back during a follow-on pat down.

Officials would not divulge the exact time period of the testing other than to say it concluded recently.



But last time I flew out of Richmond, VA I had to throw away my yogurt because SECURITY!!!





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TSA fails 95% of the time in tests to smuggle guns explosives onto planes (Original Post) NightWatcher Jun 2015 OP
Security theater liberal N proud Jun 2015 #1
Interesting HassleCat Jun 2015 #2
There are stories Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #7
First Wave HassleCat Jun 2015 #10
Source is a Wellstone ruled Jun 2015 #13
Statement by Secretary Johnson: Cerridwen Jun 2015 #3
So what are we being groped for? LisaL Jun 2015 #4
They are training us to accept random gropings. hunter Jun 2015 #16
The qualifications for working at the TSA are, do you have a car and can you find the airport snooper2 Jun 2015 #5
Maybe they're searching the wrong people. I ALWAYS get searched. I'm 68, Caucasian, etc. Shrike47 Jun 2015 #6
From day 1 I said it was all kabuki theater. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #8
TSA is not there to catch terrorists. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #9
That first photo, OMG. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #11
Six months after my mother died Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #15
Last time I got searched by the TSA was because I packed a deck of playing cards GummyBearz Jun 2015 #12
That second picture is what America has become . olddots Jun 2015 #14
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Interesting
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:34 AM
Jun 2015

When I worked for TSA, the red team tried three times to get stuff past me, and I caught them all three times. How did I beat the odds so spectacularly? If the overall success rate is only 5 percent, how did I achieve 100 percent? Yes, the red teams were sometimes able to get prohibited items through 100 percent of the time, because the detection methods we used were not designed to detect the threat chosen by the red team. I would like to know what they're doing now to fool the screeners 95 percent of the time. They could do it by presenting threats the equipment and procedures are not capable of detecting. They used to do that all the time, and they would sometimes get the same threat past the screeners time after time after time.

I realize people like to make fun of TSA officers, with comments about minimum wage dropouts and such, but the real problems lie elsewhere. The training is poor. The tests do not always relate to the real threats. The detection equipment is not capable of picking up certain things. Morale is low, and turnover is high. There are too many managers and supervisors who should not be managing or supervising anything. The high failure rate is exactly what one would expect from a poorly trained workforce, using ineffective equipment.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. There are stories
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jun 2015

circulating amongst various TSA groups,that all this garbage about failure rates is to set the agency up for Privatization and taken over by Securitas of Switzerland. Stories about lousy or zero training and up training are very true. Turn over is going through the roof and good old Delta is loving it.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
10. First Wave
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:06 PM
Jun 2015

There were originally some pretty sharp people attracted to TSA. Most of them are in the first three "waves" of people hired when the agency was established. And most of them are gone, discouraged by promises not kept. You are probably right about privatization. Once things go private, the company or companies will simply jimmy the results to look favorable.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Source is a
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jun 2015

close friend of a Union Organizer. Sounds like the moral has gone in the crapper at most airports.

Cerridwen

(13,260 posts)
3. Statement by Secretary Johnson:
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jun 2015
Statement by Secretary Johnson on US airport security enhancements

Monday, April 20, 2015

Today, I am announcing that the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) will take additional steps to address the potential insider threat vulnerability at U.S. airports. These steps follow a 90-day Aviation Security Advisory Committee (ASAC) comprehensive review conducted at my request in January 2015. I also asked the ASAC to identify other trends to determine if additional risk-based security measures, resource reallocations, new investments or policy changes are necessary.

I made this request after an incident in Atlanta that occurred in December 2014 which raised questions about potential vulnerabilities regarding the screening and vetting of all airport-based employees. Immediately following the incident in December 2014, TSA increased the random and unpredictable screening of aviation workers at various airport access points to mitigate potential security vulnerabilities.

As a result of the recommendations contained in the ASAC report, I have directed the TSA to take the following immediate actions:

1. Until TSA establishes a system for “real time recurrent” criminal history background checks for all aviation workers, require fingerprint-based Criminal History Records Checks every two years for all airport employee SIDA badge holders.
2. Require airport and airline employees traveling as passengers to be screened by TSA prior to travel.
3. Require airports to reduce the number of access points to secured areas to an operational minimum.
4. Increase aviation employee screening, to include additional randomization screening throughout the workday.
5. Re-emphasize and leverage the Department of Homeland Security “If You See Something, Say Something™” initiative to improve situational awareness and encourage detection and reporting of threat activity.


<snip to more at link>


I'm tired of the continued anti-government spin by so-called, "news" sources. Where the hell were these people during the bush years when that misadministration allowed an attack on US soil, took us into war under false pretenses, and other, overwhelming amounts of incompetence and misadministration? ~Now~ they're going to examine the government who is investigating and correcting its own problems when the previous misadministration denied it even had problems?

I call bullshit.



hunter

(38,353 posts)
16. They are training us to accept random gropings.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jun 2015

It has nothing to do with "security."

My brother, who is even more likely to say out loud what he's thinking than I am, has been "punished" with secondary inspections several time now. (He's the most gentle soul I know, an artist creating new interpretations of old motorcycles and other mechanical things.)

I hate flying to begin with.

I don't like being crammed into a pressurized aluminum tube with my knees pressed up against the seat in front of me, hurtling through the air at 450 miles per hour. I don't like being scrutinized as a weird evasive person either. Yes, this is my laptop held together with hot glue and yellow duct tape booting Linux to the command line, and it does look suspicious to someone expecting a Windows Desktop.

startx

The last time I flew they swabbed my computer down with magic explosive detecting stuff, which might have turned out badly given some of my scientific and horticultural interests, which sometimes involve a few very tightly wound nitrogen compounds.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
5. The qualifications for working at the TSA are, do you have a car and can you find the airport
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jun 2015

That is about it LOL


Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
6. Maybe they're searching the wrong people. I ALWAYS get searched. I'm 68, Caucasian, etc.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jun 2015

I personally think it's because I'm fat.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. TSA is not there to catch terrorists.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jun 2015

TSA is there to give a false sense of security to the traveling public.

Airport security has done this since the 70s.

Disclaimer, I worked airport security for a time in the 90s.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
11. That first photo, OMG.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jun 2015

Come on, what exactly is the probability of a 95-year old grandma being a terrorist? And look at the TSA woman, she is just loving every minute of it. Some people just absolutely revel in making life miserable for others and throwing their weight around. And lots of these people end up working for the TSA.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
15. Six months after my mother died
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jun 2015

my dad was at our house on a Sunday evening. He shouted for me to come watch 60 Minutes because "I saw your mother on TV". He saw her on the promo and sure enough, when they aired the piece on the TSA, there was my mother in her wheel chair as she was being searched.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
12. Last time I got searched by the TSA was because I packed a deck of playing cards
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jun 2015

The guy literally sat there and rifled through my standard deck of cards for a good 15min. Its not like I felt violated or anything, but how on earth do they choose to dick around with a deck of cards for so long and fail 95% of the time someone has a fake bomb?

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