...if the shoe.....err...'H' fits....

:&gt ))

So accurate.

That's a good one!

We have a grand prize winner.

Shouldn't we leave one or two on, just in case?

Since Bill let his hair go gray. Or should I say Gerayah y'all?

Perhaps ask them their opinion.

Something to think about, anyway.

I missed this one when it made the Greatest Page. Very important post.

Women are not twins to their husbands. I wish women would stop taking their husbands names, I truly do.

I stand corrected. And I appreciate your point. What surname should the offspring be assigned?

And then you start bringing up their daughter.

Bill Clinton isn't running. Chelsea Clinton isn't running. Why are you trying to bring them into the race?

Hillary is the one who is running. If you have issue with her, fine. But don't try attacking her over what her husband did in office, or try to bring in her daughter as another target.

Hillary isn't her husband. Hillary isn't Chelsea. Hillary is Hillary. Try to keep your attacks against her running for President against her own record, don't try labeling her with what her husband did, or try using her daughter as a excuse for the attacks.

And going out of your way to do it.

You have something to debate, throw it down. Or keep twisting yourself up in a wheel barrel full of derp.

How f'in dare you say I targeted her daughter.

Is attacking a woman over her husbands actions.

Wait, no. That's a barrel full of misogyny.

Still though, explain it to me - What point did you want to make by bringing up Hillarys daughter? (Or, in the dehumanizing way you put it, the 'Offspring')

I made a side comment asking what one would do about last-naming their children when someone else pointed out that taking a husbands last name is a practice worth challenging.

and DO YOU REALLY THINK HER ECONOMIC TEAM WILL BE ANYTHING BUT MORE OF THE SAME?

Attacking her over her husbands actions is still misogynistic. Attack her based on what SHE herself did if she is such a bad candidate.

Their whole campaign was "Two for One".
She took credit for her time in the White House.
She should also take the criticism.

I had no idea. Thanks for the update.

Cool idea.

one of us got the last name, so the other got the first name.
i already had a kid by another marriage, so they werent all gonna have the same last name anyway.

If they are so distinct ideologically then educate us on their policy differences.

I'll start, she is more the hawkish interventionist.

Every time I see someone make the two into one, I think of this. Here's the wiki on it. Not a too controversial subject for some and so a somewhat adequate source. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverture

But of course she won't

it would make the head spin like Linda Blair's in The Exorcist.

as qualifying experience. She'll have to distinguish which of Bill's policies she disagrees with.

..where he offered "Two for the price of one".

As a shark, it was good.

The acolytes were trying to absolve Hillary for everything that happened during the Clinton Administration,
while, really "they were working together" (your quote), campaigned together, and even had a campaign Slogan, "Two for the price of one!".

That makes Hillary partially responsible for the fuck ups during Bill's Administration.


---bvar22
cursed with a long memory

Which is one of the bigger reasons they pulled out all the stops to derail her healthcare initiative. Gotta make sure the wimmin know their place and stay there.

" they (Republicans) pulled out all the stops to derail her Obama's healthcare initiative,
and Hillary wasn't even in the White House.

and I can point to a male who was/is treated the exact same way, then
it does put a half-hitch in your rope.

And I remember what the commentators and pundits were saying (as well as barroom-type conversations). If you prefer, I could amend it slightly and say, there were people against anything Hillary wanted to do because of her gender, and people against anything Obama wanted to do because of his race. There were also other people (aka billionaires and corporations, if you consider them to be people, and the Republicans they had bought) who were opposed to healthcare reform for purely evil and profit reasons, who cynically used sexism and racism to further their own ends.

Better?

Senate of actual national political experience.

On the other hand, if she wants to claim the 8 Bill Clinton years as her experience, she has to take the blame for Bill Clinton's mistakes.

The repeal of Glass-Steagall was one of the major mistakes of Bill Clinton. And it was due to corruption. Doing good deeds for your friends and forgetting about the potential disasters they might cause for the American people. That's corruption.

Bernie had as mayor and in Congress and what do you have left, Hillary served as SOS, Bernie doesn't have anything. Now this would be fair, huh.

Really starting to warm up to him.

O'Malley:

In order to prevent another economic depression, O’Malley wants to separate commercial and investment banks by reinstating the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act. O’Malley explained in a recent op-ed for The Des Moines Register how the crash could have been avoided if the act had not been repealed in 1999 during the Clinton administration. O’Malley called Wall Street bankers “bullies” during his Saturday announcement. “Tell me how it is that you can get pulled over for a broken taillight in our country,” O’Malley said, according to The New York Times, “but if you wreck the nation’s economy, you are untouchable.”

https://www.takepart.com/article/2015/05/30/7-things-martin-omalley

At least in the current manner in which VP's are used.

It would be good to see O'Malley in a place where he can do stuff.

My concern about a Sanders admin is that he'd no longer be in the Senate.

She's proven where her loyalty lies.

We need to do better than her, we really really do.

it the same ones that she speechifies for and support her campaigns.

I put the links in the post.

Really, stop shooting yourselves in the foot.

for the middle class....

Bill was happy to sign it.

As far as I remember he was comfortable with it

How many times is this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026762792

I had not looked at GD or your OP before posting.

Doo-dee-doo-doo....

is my best explanation for these many synchronicity we have on our posts.




or maybe its this contraption we can visualize.

It says to me that we'd be nuts to let a Third Wayer be our candidate because all they will do is screw us.

How'd I do??

'They would screw us in ways that shouldn't physically be possible.'

We could probably play this game all day long, but since Bill Clinton isn't running for office...

you really don't want to play this game.

Her invoking FDR is an outrage.

I'm really going to have to brush up on my US History

FDR was a man, not a god.

Hillary Clinton is not her husband.

ideology and why is this not abundantly clear considering her huge exposure and platforms?

Was she a hostage at gunpoint for forming the DLC and leading the corporate conservative capture and assimilation of our party and government?

Why are all her people neolibs?

Only difference I'm confident in is she is more the hawk.

will no longer be responsible for good or for ill.

He appointed, he signed legislation, he was the boss.

If he and Hillary disagreed, his opinion was the one that counted. Because he was elected.

She can certainly argue that policies from that era were preferable to Bush-era policies. But, unless she's adopted them she doesn't own them.

Jay-Z is to Harry Belafonte

nailed it....

Desperate for change that they voted for and did not get, and now we are offered what was rejected in 08...that does not register as change.

?

Say it ain't so!

Go ahead and post it!

The "left" of the day thought that FDR was too cozy with bankers, too close to Wall Street, and that the New Deal didn't go nearly far enough. They wanted Huey Long to challenge FDR in 1936.

Long on FDR:

was at the end of a line of the standard picture of Jesus,
followed by FDR, next was the official photo of JFK , followed by Huey Long.

He was crooked as a snake, but made sure a good bit of money actually "trickled down" to the poor and desperate. Huey Long is the reason Mississippi and Alabama are at the bottom instead of Louisiana. There are still pockets of hard core Democrats scatted across Louisiana.

The same DLC that the Clintons helped push in to power in the Democratic Party...



http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html

And just to make to make it clear, Bernie embraces DEMOCRATIC socialism, not DESPOTIC communism that the Kochs and their minions that they buy in government have loved so much in their quest for world power.

nt

really, for fuck's sake. This site is supposed to be progressive.

Jesus!

And neither were the results.

That might leave a mark.

Because, of course, poor Dumbya was too stupid to know better, but those Clintons, they are Machiavellian geniuses who never make mistakes. Hillary is solely responsible for Iraq, Bill planned the mortgage meltdown in 1998. Hell. Bill probably had an affair knowing that the rift between him and Al would allow W. to steal the election....

Why do so many people insist upon endowing the Clintons with god like powers?

...those official signing ceremony photos. Not do I see a gun put to Clinton's head forcing him to sign that into law.

does this mean that Hillary will reinstate the Glass-Steagal act?

poke...poke...

it, too. Translation: She gets the benefit of the Clinton name but can claim independence when convenient.

you can't have your cake and eat it too

This phrase is easier to understand if it is read as "You can't eat your cake, and have it too". Obviously once you've eaten your cake, you won't have it any more. Used for expressing the impossibility of having something both ways, if those two ways conflict.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=you+can%27t+have+your+cake+and+eat+it+too

Just keep repeating it and eventually her past will disappear!

Wiki, Gramm-Leach-Bliley 1999, aka glibba

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act