It should make everyone furious.

I also agree with you that it is the parents and other adults we should be focusing most of our fury on -- not the teen raised in that sick system, homeschooled and isolated from other influences. None of those kids had anyone trustworthy to learn from or to turn to.

I'm so sorry this happened to you, demtenjeep. I live with another survivor, who also was betrayed by her mother when she confided in her, and I know it is a lifelong hurt.

feature him all over the nation. I'm not going to totally blame Fox, though, there were plenty of other news outlets who wanted the "scoop", but Fox must have paid dearly. They better sock it away, because their shelf life is diminishing rapidly.

Maybe now they will let the adult girls go out in the world now...less upkeep, I suppose.

Josh was the Eldest Son, and groomed to carry on the family system. He, too, was a victim. And probably, truth be known, so was Jim Bob...this stuff doesn't just pop up from nowhere.

And all the rest of the holier than thou males.

Still, I think that any intelligent male spawn should be able to say "This is not right" and break out of the mold. Maybe most of them do but there are too many that say WTF.

they all gang up on you...leaving you isolated and condemned. The power of multi-generational denial and deeply internalized shame, secrets and lies is consummate.

because they know they can count on soft ball questions, they wouldn't last 5 minutes with a legitimate news organization.

in total denial about scapegoating Josh.

It's a "family sin" in a way, to talk and expose the horror. And it may be a trial photo op for them and TLC to see if they can still find someway to continue. I mean, if this goes well, they might be auditioning for a new "slant" and the forgiveness/redemption aspect. I wouldn't put much past the Reality Show voyeurs.

And to heck with the girls. They won't even let the older ones go to college...they are indentured servants each with their own mini-family.

They will be looking to redeem themselves and get their reality show back, that's their "cash cow", how they support themselves. I don't expect any difficult questions, Michelle will probably shed a tear or two, they will reference God in every other sentence and talk about how "humbled" Josh is, etc., and it should be a train wreck just like their whole nauseating family.

The girls, unfortunately have never been around normal people and have no clue how bizarre their world is. I can only hope someday they get a clue and leave the crazy cult they were born into.

ones, for whom the girls play nanny...the other older boys. And now, god help them, there is a new noun...literally...to duggar...along with a description. It is unfathomable to me how any of these kids have much chance to live full, emotional lives.

however, a mother who did not act when this happened to her daughters is horrific. She has not expressed any concern for the abuse of her daughters. That is ....I can not think of a word bad enough....and I know some awful ones.

ownership of moveable property...included slaves and women for decades. Some are still living in the same old Victorian Age.

You should be right, but in this case, not only was there no place for her to go, but she would have been punished like a child and humiliated...likely in front of the entire family. Barefoot and pregnant is the situation here. She has been pregnant her entire married life. And I guarantee you she had no access to money, except for household needs.

Fear is how this exists...they had very few encounters with the outside world. And those were very carefully scripted, as on TLC.

Hopefully this will change some now, and the older children at least can get away. They wouldn't even let their 25 year old daughter go to college. They are indentured servants.

I am furious and appalled about these duggars too, but it doesn't hold the personal anguish for me since I've never been subjected to this kind of abuse. Good for you that you're dealing with it and not allowing it to eat you up...

That's all and good if you want to say that jim bob and josh were raised that way, and that's why they're like they are. But, then they shouldn't be standing on their high horse, judging others and making it sound like they're "good little Christians!"

to be said in the thread has been said, so I'll just offer you hugs and say that I'm glad you have survived the denial and abuse.

Screw the Duggars.

they are being attacked because they protected their rapist and shamed the girls. That has GOT to stop

By any stretch of the imagination. Josh Duggar should have done hard time for what he did, but instead everyone is acting like Officer Barbrady from South Park - "Move along, nothing to see here". Seriously it's truly disgusting that they think they can get away with it.

no one should know that

"Today my husband tolerates my sister's husband..."

Your husband is a bigger person than I am. I simply do not think I would be able to control or discipline myself were I in the same room as anyone who had ever engaged in anything close to that. As for you... well, the internal strength it must take to simply keep cool in his presence is something I desperately lack.

I love my sister dearly but when they come visit, it is hard for me to take anything her husband says seriously.

He lies so easily and he believes his lies. The rest of us just let him be.