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bravenak
(34,648 posts)They love clown and they have a circus full of them. Any of ours can beat any of theirs.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I will admit I am very nervous this election because parties don't keep the presidency 3 times in a row. Hopefully we will break the 60 year drought.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They forgot that the demographic bomb would actually blow. Times are looking sad for future conservatives. They are to bigoted to pull in new voters. All we have to do is reach out and keep our platform updated for the 21st century.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)"Demographic nightmare for republicans"
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)midterms are a different story as "the Obama coalition" turnout rates have historically dropped off from Presidential election years but recent years the election is over after the Ohio polls closed (which is why the GOPs "war on voting" have significantly curtailed early voting days in both Florida & Ohio where early voting went for Obama by 70%)
freshwest
(53,661 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Now that conservatives have had some time to acclimate to weed legalization. Thry were expecting armageddon and got nothing. We got rid of our Republican governor last time and we got a Dem mayor in the last elections this April. Things are looking better, imo. It will probably go red, but just barely.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)neverforget
(9,437 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)How much guilt do you feel? If the answer is any at all, then no.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If it is full of actual clowns, whose fault is that?
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)But it will be fun watching the insane GOP falling apart.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Pity is more like it but then hard to feel sorry for people who choose to back these clowns with either their vote or their money.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)At this point it doesn't even matter who it is they are all vile and it's the kind of vile that shows.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I see O'Malley as the opposite of great personally but I like his second term as governor a hell of a lot more than his first term as governor but Maryland has term limits so more difficult to say which is the real O'Malley and there was speculation he'd run for a President for awhile now when the term limit was up but way too phony for my tastes.
Republican field's first problem is way too large making the choices daunting and a difficult to race handicap but based on national favorability averages compared to unfavorable averages Walker appears to be the choice and scary on a national election possibility -it depends on what a candidate says or does and no amount of pretending isn't going to help but electoral math is stacked against them because of the demographic trends the new incoming young voters those who are turning 18 for future elections are their only hope but overall the Republican field is a jumbled mess
Clinton Close to Most Republicans in Arizona
PPP's new Arizona poll finds the state has the potential to be a swing state next year, although early head to heads between Hillary Clinton and the Republican field still lean more towards the GOP.
Clinton is within 3 points in match ups with 7 out of 9 of the Republicans we tested. She actually leads Rick Perry 44/41 and she is tied with Jeb Bush (at 41%), and Ben Carson (at 42%). She is down by 1 point each to Ted Cruz and Scott Walker (44/43), by 2 points to Marco Rubio (43/41), and by 3 points to Mike Huckabee (44/41). The only Republicans with more robust leads are Rand Paul who's ahead by 5 points at 45/40 and Chris Christie who's up by 7 points at 46/39. Clinton's deficit in every match up is smaller than the amount Barack Obama lost the state by in 2008 and 2012.
We also tested Walker against all of the other potential Democratic candidates, and he leads them by wide margins. He's up 15 on both Lincoln Chafee (41/26) and Bernie Sanders (43/28), and 18 on both Martin O'Malley (43/25) and Jim Webb (44/26). Those large deficits are largely a function of the candidates' name recognition- because it's so low, only 53-58% of Democrats even commit to voting for those folks against Walker in a general election. But at any rate Clinton is by far and away the strongest candidate for the general in the Democratic field.
The Republican primary field in Arizona is a jumbled mess, as it is most places, with 5 different candidates polling in double digits but none of them getting more than 16%. Scott Walker leads the way with that 16% followed by Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio at 14%, Rand Paul and Ben Carson at 11%, Ted Cruz at 9%, Chris Christie and Mike Huckabee at 5%, and Rick Perry at 2%.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_AZ_50615.pdf
I know Arizona politics and it is very unique. Registered Independents outnumber Republicans or Democrats but it is basically a 3-way split 34 here 32 there etc but interestingly they turnout less than the registered other voters but recent Presidential and obviously who gets elected on statewide races (though the 50/50 losers are fighters while most candidates seem to be worried about giving the wrong opinion) and the irony is Hillary Clinton tracks the poorest among "moderate Democrats" in Arizona.
JHB
(37,166 posts)If your level of guilt-feeling is "zero", then I feel precisely as guilty as you. If your guilt-feeling is any more than that, then no, I don't feel as guilty as you do.
This all assumes negative (i.e., anti-guilt) numbers are not involved, because then I rate somewhere around minus-kajillion.